What's new
By:

Rookie review

did someone really just say "and even the 4 in a few years"??? hayward is NOT a 4. he's 6'8" in shoes and he's built like gumby. that's not a bad thing, but it means he's definitely not a 4.
and yes, kk was a great decision-maker coming off that screen, but the jazz bigs were hardly ever ready for the pass. the number of balls that passed right in front of / went off the hands of booz, sap and fes in the playoffs is enough to make me cry. it's one of the reasons i say that chicago will probably put korver to better use than we ever did. oh well.
 
theNBAnerd said:
did someone really just say "and even the 4 in a few years"??? hayward is NOT a 4. he's 6'8" in shoes and he's built like gumby. that's not a bad thing, but it means he's definitely not a 4.
and yes, kk was a great decision-maker coming off that screen, but the jazz bigs were hardly ever ready for the pass. the number of balls that passed right in front of / went off the hands of booz, sap and fes in the playoffs is enough to make me cry. it's one of the reasons i say that chicago will probably put korver to better use than we ever did. oh well.
Click to expand...

That makes sense, you know since they now have our main, and most fumble prone big. Also, they have that Noah kid who just has great hands.... I'm not seeing it. I agree with everything else, but not the Bulls statement. I guess if "better use" means camping outside the arc, then yes.
 
boozer isn't all that "fumble-prone." sap let just as many of those passes sail by him. but that's beyond the point. if the chicago staff can get their bigs LOOKING for that pass, then it opens a whole lot of options up and suddenly defenders can't hug korver as he comes around. i know the jazz coaches are smart enough to point that out to boozer, too, but they obviously didn't. maybe they just didn't realize they had that option with korver's vision.

i guess that's what you get from years of having guys like brewer and matthews run that play. horny made that little drop pass a ton, but since then it appears the jazz have forgotten it exists.
 
theNBAnerd said:
boozer isn't all that "fumble-prone." sap let just as many of those passes sail by him. but that's beyond the point. if the chicago staff can get their bigs LOOKING for that pass, then it opens a whole lot of options up and suddenly defenders can't hug korver as he comes around. i know the jazz coaches are smart enough to point that out to boozer, too, but they obviously didn't. maybe they just didn't realize they had that option with korver's vision.

i guess that's what you get from years of having guys like brewer and matthews run that play. horny made that little drop pass a ton, but since then it appears the jazz have forgotten it exists.
Click to expand...

What? This makes no sense. How the **** do you know they didn't point it out to him? I guess they didn't point out that he should play better defense, too? That is a nauseating amount of conjecture. So, while you're at it, you might as well assume that an unproven head coach will be able to magically make Boozer be ready for a pass and play better D. How about a little intellectual honesty? Boozer isn't ready for those passes because he is looking for those rebounding stats.
 
theNBAnerd said:
boozer isn't all that "fumble-prone." sap let just as many of those passes sail by him. but that's beyond the point. if the chicago staff can get their bigs LOOKING for that pass, then it opens a whole lot of options up and suddenly defenders can't hug korver as he comes around. i know the jazz coaches are smart enough to point that out to boozer, too, but they obviously didn't. maybe they just didn't realize they had that option with korver's vision.

i guess that's what you get from years of having guys like brewer and matthews run that play. horny made that little drop pass a ton, but since then it appears the jazz have forgotten it exists.
Click to expand...
I'm pretty sure they watch the games man.
 
theNBAnerd said:
boozer isn't all that "fumble-prone." sap let just as many of those passes sail by him. but that's beyond the point. if the chicago staff can get their bigs LOOKING for that pass, then it opens a whole lot of options up and suddenly defenders can't hug korver as he comes around. i know the jazz coaches are smart enough to point that out to boozer, too, but they obviously didn't. maybe they just didn't realize they had that option with korver's vision.

i guess that's what you get from years of having guys like brewer and matthews run that play. horny made that little drop pass a ton, but since then it appears the jazz have forgotten it exists.
Click to expand...

Yea right. Because Chicago is going to run Utah's sets and a young unproven coach is going to be able to do what Sloan and his very experienced staff couldn't.

Boozer has bad hands and he did not look for those passes because he was already positioning for rebounds. They could have told him to look hundreds of times and I doubt Boozer would have changed his approach.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Where's the precedence for Utah trading lottery picks at the deadline for luxury tax purposes?
Click to expand...

Ronnie Brewer. Last season. Jazz went 41-41, missed the playoffs and drafted Ronnie Brewer with the 14th pick in the draft, which is the lottery.

I will now give myself +1 rep.
 
On a more substantive note: Thorpe is horrible.

First of all, I simply disagree with John Wall being #1. He was a grade-A chucker in summer league who bulled his way to 23.5 ppg while shooting 37.7%. And that's against summer league defenses.

I'm sorry, if you're the consensus #1 pick in the draft and you shoot well under 40% you didn't have an impressive summer league and you certainly can't be described as "nothing short of spectacular."

He also ranked Derrick Favors #11. Now I'm not an NBA talent scout or anything, I'm just a short, big-edo'd, balding lawyer who likes to watch basketball slightly-more-than-casually, but I feel pretty confident saying that if your turnovers + fouls are roughly equal to your points and you're the #3 pick, then you had a crappy summer league. Against Utah, Favors scored 6 points and had 7 TOs and five fouls while getting routinely outclassed by the likes of Brian Augustine and Rod Benson. There is no possible rationale for saying he was in the top 20. Dude was horrible in summer league.
 
ok, relax everybody. obviously it was conjecture to say they didn't point it out to him, and obviously chicago isn't going to run the same plays as the jazz. all imeant is that the jazz had a guy who was a really good passer from the elbow, a la hornacek, and they didn't make use of him for whatever reason. maybe it was the the coaching didn't emphasize that option becuase they haven't had the personnel for it for years (that was my assumption), or maybe it was that every big man on the jazz roster just forgot to look for that pass. i honestly don't know which, i'm just saying that korver is better -- in an overall sense -- than jazz fans gave him credit for.
 
Sirkickyass said:
Ronnie Brewer. Last season. Jazz went 41-41, missed the playoffs and drafted Ronnie Brewer with the 14th pick in the draft, which is the lottery.

I will now give myself +1 rep.
Click to expand...

Jazz got a #1 pick and they stayed in the tax AND Ronnie wasn't in his rookie year.

Doesn't fit the criteria.







HA!
 
Sirkickyass said:
Ronnie Brewer. Last season. Jazz went 41-41, missed the playoffs and drafted Ronnie Brewer with the 14th pick in the draft, which is the lottery.

I will now give myself +1 rep.
Click to expand...

The Brewer trade was far from a salary dump.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top