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6 month wait time for both... so if we traded for him would he sign an extension in June? Nah... at that point he wants the extra money.
They can trade him 6 months after the extension.
Thanks. That's what I thought.

For us, I would trade for him now if we had the guts to move on from Rubio. Its a gamble, but it seems like Dinwiddie is a loyal guy. He knows he might could get more in unrestricted free agency but he is willing to sign that extension.

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Thanks. That's what I thought.

For us, I would trade for him now if we had the guts to move on from Rubio. Its a gamble, but it seems like Dinwiddie is a loyal guy. He knows he might could get more in unrestricted free agency but he is willing to sign that extension.

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Depends on cost for me. If it was a first then maybe... more than that and it's tough. For us it would make sense to wait on him. His low caphold would mean we could do business elsewhere and then come back and address his contract (even if we already agreed on price...just have to order the transaction). Being unrestricted worries me.
 
Korver and Shamet aren't in the same role or situation. If Allen was playing (out of necessity as shamet is) do we know that he wouldn't be shooting 37-38 percent on threes? Shamet plays off of Simmons and Embiid and doesn't get anywhere near the defensive attention that Korver does.

I don't think it is time to lament taking Allen over Shamet.
If Allen can't shoot over 33% against the end of bench players of other teams, I'm sure he won't be shooting over 37% on threes out of necessity. And like I said, Korver is the clear better shooter at the moment. But what about three years from now? Will he still be in this league? And don't act like we only need Korver/Klay level shooters. This is a team that has to give Ricky Rubio over 4 attempts from threes every night. Do you know how many easy wide open threes we blew this year?
 
If Allen can't shoot over 33% against the end of bench players of other teams, I'm sure he won't be shooting over 37% on threes out of necessity. And like I said, Korver is the clear better shooter at the moment. But what about three years from now? Will he still be in this league? And don't act like we only need Korver/Klay level shooters. This is a team that has to give Ricky Rubio over 4 attempts from threes every nigjt. Do you know how many easy wide open threes we blew this year?
Do you know what sample size is?
 
Do you know what sample size is?
If he played well against the end of bench players on other teams, I'd call it a small sample size. But he has performed underwhelmingly. It's like a math test. It usually takes multiple evaluations to see where you at. But if you can't even pass the entry level, you're done.
 
If he played well against the end of bench players on other teams, I'd call it a small sample size. But he has performed underwhelmingly. It's like a math test. It usually takes multiple evaluations to see where you at. But if you can't even pass the entry level, you're done.
lol wut?

Spencer Dinwiddie shot 30% from the field and 19% from 3 his rookie year. He's pretty damn good now. No one is done because of a slow start to their rookie year.

Take off teh clown shoes
 
lol wut?

Spencer Dinwiddie shot 30% from the field and 19% from 3 his rookie year. He's pretty damn good now. No one is done because of a slow start to their rookie year.

Take off teh clown shoes
that's why he was done. In fact he was out of league for several months till a under-manned Nets picked him up, and he got better in time. It's like 99% of the players were out of the league that way and Dinwiddie was that 1% who got back from it. It's like calling math tests and college useless simply because Bill Gates dropped out of college. So I'm not sure the same thing can be said about Allen, who is also 2 full yrs older than Dinwiddie when he came in.
 
that's why he was done. In fact he was out of league for several months till a under-manned Nets picked him up, and he got better in time. It's like 99% of the players were out of the league that way and Dinwiddie was that 1% who got back from it. It's like calling math tests and college useless simply because Bill Gates dropped out of college. So I'm not sure the same thing can be said about Allen, who is also 2 full yrs older than Dinwiddie when he came in.

Your analogy is bad.
 
Your analogy is bad.
Grayson Allen needs get better and I think thats nuff said. Saying stuff like small sample size is just making excuses at this point. Spencer Dinwiddie was out of the league. And he will be out of the league if he doesn't play better. Spencer Dinwiddie got his second chance and I'm not sure if Grayson will.
 
Grayson Allen needs get better and I think thats nuff said. Saying stuff like small sample size is just making excuses at this point. Spencer Dinwiddie was out of the league. And he will be out of the league if he doesn't play better. Spencer Dinwiddie got his second chance and I'm not sure if Grayson will.
Small sample size is a fact. Its not an excuse.
 
Grayson is on a guaranteed contract. The Jazz arent going to give up on him.

Nor should they... he has trade value too. @jom2003 needs to let it breathe.

In small samples shooting can tilt heavily one way or another... Grayson has the smallest of small samples right now.

In the g league he is shooting 40% from 3 and almost 50% from the field. Shooting like 9 3s a game. Extended floor time really matters for shooters. 2-3 minute stints or garbage time (a couple hours after you've warmed up) it is hard to find a rhythm.

Grayson will be a good shooter... the defense is by far the biggest question imo.
 
Not to mention he had the lowest b ball IQ on the team.

also if we have Korver how much is AB going to play (he won't)

also, we saved enough dough in the transaction this year to buy a second rounder if we want to (we won't but we could). The acquisition price was almost nothing and the on court value will be much more than that.
 
People commenting on sample size are correct, but I also understand the other dude’s angle.

If Grayson wasn’t unplayable right now, his sample size wouldn’t be so minuscule. Shamet is good enough to be in the rotation at Philly.

Still have to remember it’s a very small sample size, though.
 
there goes dreams of bringing spencer dinwiddie to utah.
His new deal will pay him $10.6 million, $11.4 million and $12.3 million annually starting with the 2019-20 season, sources said.

3 year.....$34 million
 
Watching last night's game reminded me of a convo a while back on Rodney McGruder... I like him and see no way Miami can even pay him a meager salary next year. Wonder what it'd cost to get him if their season doesn't turn around. Think he could be good enough at PG to play next to DM. He's restricted FA... think he will get close to MLE money this offseason. 40% from three this year. Plus defender.

His name also sounds a lot like McGruber... which is fun.
 
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