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I’d take Korver while moving Joe to the PG in any Korver lineup.
 
What would it realistically take to get Otto Porter? Washington is well into the luxury tax category this year and it's hard to pay that if you aren't even going to make the playoffs. I have to think Porter is expendable. They're basically out of cap space for next year too. Signing Porter would mean the Jazz don't have cap space next year though. You would be foregoing a chance at Middleton, Harris, Mirotic, etc. by guaranteeing you sign Porter.

I don't think Porter's market value is very high because he's played so poorly and is owed $56 million over the next two years after this year. (2nd year is a player option he'll surely take). I don't think it's to the point they'd have to compensate someone to take him to get expiring deals back, but it may be getting close if they keep up this poor play.

Would the Jazz even do a trade? Which of the least of these combos gets it done?
Derrick Favors, Alec Burks
Derrick Favors, Alec Burks, Tony Bradley
Derrick Favors, Alec Burks, Grayson Allen
Derrick Favors, Alec Burks, 2019 1st round draft pick
Derrick Favors, Thabo Sefolosha, 2019 1st round draft pick
Alec Burks, Thabo Sefolosha, Tony Bradley

Or something else?
 
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Porter is an interesting situation. Good player on a great player contract = bad value. For a team who thinks they can lure a free agent, he's a bad addition because his bad value. For a team that needs a good player but might not be a free agent destination, he might worth it.

Since we aren't guaranteed to get a free agent, Porter would be a fantastic addition.

I would probably hope to trade Burks, Thabo, Udoh, Bradley and some sort of draft considerations for Porter. We might have to send Favors, but we would be so incredibly strong for a playoff run if we could get Porter without having to send out Favors.



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LoPo said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...-deal-reports-say-pelicans-76ers-rockets/amp/

Interesting read. According to the report:

Houston offered Gordon, Nene and 2 1sts for Butler

NO offered Mirotic and an unprotected 1st. They wouldn't offer Jrue.

Washington would not trade Beal.

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It's funny... Minnesota gets offered some decent returns from Miami, gets offered 4 firsts from Houston, gets offered the above stuff, and they settle for Saric and Covington?

ETA: Did Houston never offer 4 firsts?
 
I don't think Houston offered 4 firsts AND Gordon. Miami, as stated in the article, pulled Richardson off the table due to his fast start to the season.

Considering Minnesota's already young team, I think it was smart to take proven players instead of low 1st rounders.

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infection said:
It's funny... Minnesota gets offered some decent returns from Miami, gets offered 4 firsts from Houston, gets offered the above stuff, and they settle for Saric and Covington?

ETA: Did Houston never offer 4 firsts?
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Why would a team with two current max players want 4 first round picks spread out and protected for the distant future?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Why would a team with two current max players want 4 first round picks spread out and protected for the distant future?
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Better question: how much better is Saric than Bjelica, who they just let walk?

Cool, they salvaged the current situation with a couple role players. The value of a first round pick also isn’t only realized with drafting someone, but as a currency. And with offering up four first rounders, the back end of those would have to be unprotected, unless it was a protection that converts to cash or second rounders.
 
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Randy For Rubio isn't my mom, but we are both Lopo's daddy.
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How I imagine Cy every time he tries to rile somebody up on this forum.

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infection said:
It's funny... Minnesota gets offered some decent returns from Miami, gets offered 4 firsts from Houston, gets offered the above stuff, and they settle for Saric and Covington?

ETA: Did Houston never offer 4 firsts?
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It was a sneakily reported deal... they wanted to dump Knights contract which is worth a first by itself. The other firsts were likely protected and wouldn’t have the value the Nets firsts did.
 
infection said:
Better question: how much better is Saric than Bjelica, who they just let walk?

Cool, they salvaged the current situation with a couple role players. The value of a first round pick also isn’t only realized with drafting someone, but as a currency. And with offering up four first rounders, the back end of those would have to be unprotected, unless it was a protection that converts to cash or second rounders.
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Good point about Bjelica and Saric.

Was the 4 1st rounders true or a rumor? To me, it sounded like a Chris Broussard "according to my sources" report. It would have taken Brandon Knight's contract too.

I think Covington is a poor man's Butler and he's locked into a friendly contract three years after this season. Covington will be one of the best contracts in the league in a couple years when he's making less than $13 million for 2020-21 and 2021-22. I think Covington is a better asset than Gordon or any of the firsts that Minnesota would have gotten.
 
LoPo said:
Good point about Bjelica and Saric.

Was the 4 1st rounders true or a rumor? To me, it sounded like a Chris Broussard "according to my sources" report. It would have taken Brandon Knight's contract too.

I think Covington is a poor man's Butler and he's locked into a friendly contract three years after this season. Covington will be one of the best contracts in the league in a couple years when he's making less than $13 million for 2020-21 and 2021-22. I think Covington is a better asset than Gordon or any of the firsts that Minnesota would have gotten.
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Covington and Butler are completely different. The man has a 66% 3pt attempt rate, rarely shoots off the dribble, and rarely takes mid-range shots outside the paint.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Covington and Butler are completely different. The man has a 66% 3pt attempt rate, rarely shoots off the dribble, and rarely takes mid-range shots outside the paint.
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I think Covington will take more shots in Minnesota than he did in Philly. With so many plays being run for Reddick, Embiid and Simmons, Covington was made to just sit on the outside. With Thibdeau's philosophy of playing his starters a ton of minutes, I fully expect Covington to play more, shoot more and do well in Minnesota. He might not get the green light 16 shots per game like Butler, but I fully expect him to start shooting 12 or 13 a night.
 
LoPo said:
I think Covington will take more shots in Minnesota than he did in Philly. With so many plays being run for Reddick, Embiid and Simmons, Covington was made to just sit on the outside. With Thibdeau's philosophy of playing his starters a ton of minutes, I fully expect Covington to play more, shoot more and do well in Minnesota. He might not get the green light 16 shots per game like Butler, but I fully expect him to start shooting 12 or 13 a night.
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Yes, Thibs might ruin him and turn him into a horrible player, it's possible I guess.

He is nothing like Butler. If he tries to be, he isnt a NBA level player offensively.
 
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