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Rudy/Donovan All Star rankings among players/media

Jazz aren't getting any allstar spots right now. Players have to earn that ****.

Team record matters for these things.

Jazz aren't getting any spots. The only possibility is Gobert.

Donovan has not earned an allstar spot. He simply hasn't earned it. It's not even sort of a close call.

Win games if you want to be in the allstars.
Jazz are 4th in the West...

West reserves will almost certainly include Rudy and KAT front court, CP3, Booker, Luka, Donovan back court. Draymond will get picked, I suppose. I'm not sure how many reserves they pick, but I think maybe 8. Donovan would have to miss out to KAT (terrible team) and Draymond (injuries) plus at least two of people like Anthony Edwards (bad team), Shai (bad team), Brandon Ingram (injuries plus bad team), AD (injuries, also not great team), PG13 (injuries, not great team). I think he's almost certainly going to be selected.
 
Jazz are 4th in the West...

West reserves will almost certainly include Rudy and KAT front court, CP3, Booker, Luka, Donovan back court. Draymond will get picked, I suppose. I'm not sure how many reserves they pick, but I think maybe 8. Donovan would have to miss out to KAT (terrible team) and Draymond (injuries) plus at least two of people like Anthony Edwards (bad team), Shai (bad team), Brandon Ingram (injuries plus bad team), AD (injuries, also not great team), PG13 (injuries, not great team). I think he's almost certainly going to be selected.

Not worried one bit about Gobert, DM is a bit more slippery, but think the odds favor him as I don’t see him getting passed over for those guys or someone like Murray from SA.

He would have a much tougher time in the east.
 
You can't compare those numbers directly. There are 50% more votes for front court players, and also a lot less log-jam.
I can simply look at the guys he has less votes than and see just fine why being ranked there and in 9th place is a slap in the face by his peers. We all talk about fan voting, and yet he was higher in fan voting than he was ranked by players.
 
I kind of hope neither of them make it. Maybe they will play with a chip on their shoulder the rest of the season.
 
I can simply look at the guys he has less votes than and see just fine why being ranked there and in 9th place is a slap in the face by his peers. We all talk about fan voting, and yet he was higher in fan voting than he was ranked by players.
It's true that he actually is behind Murray, Shai and Edwards. I find it somewhat surprising, but it's not like player votes are that much higher quality than fans. Klay Thompson has 9 votes, Malik Monk has 6. Grayson Allen and Ben Simmons both have 2 in the East.

I still think Donovan will make the team.
 
It's true that he actually is behind Murray, Shai and Edwards. I find it somewhat surprising, but it's not like player votes are that much higher quality than fans. Klay Thompson has 9 votes, Malik Monk has 6. Grayson Allen and Ben Simmons both have 2 in the East.

I still think Donovan will make the team.
Well yes, the coaches will vote for the reserves. My contention isn’t he doesn’t deserve to be a reserve, just that he should be voted ahead of those other guys because of his play, yet he’s still behind them.
 
Well yes, the coaches will vote for the reserves. My contention isn’t he doesn’t deserve to be a reserve, just that he should be voted ahead of those other guys because of his play, yet he’s still behind them.
That's true, I agree.
 
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