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Rudy Gobert "Greatest Jazz Center of All Time" Countdown Thread

jjscap said:
From the worst to best : )

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In addition to the percentages (which is an extreme difference) is this image saying that opponents make far fewer attempts against Enes than Rudy? I guess that can be explained by Rudy running toward every shot whereas Enes is sometimes going the other way and might not meet their qualifications as the rim defender. Is that what's going on here?
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
In addition to the percentages (which is an extreme difference) is this image saying that opponents make far fewer attempts against Enes than Rudy? I guess that can be explained by Rudy running toward every shot whereas Enes is sometimes going the other way and might not meet their qualifications as the rim defender. Is that what's going on here?
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The graph starts at 5 FGA at the rim per game. 5 or above would qualify a player for this graph. Also dude is listed as a center so it's fair to include him anyway,imo.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
In addition to the percentages (which is an extreme difference) is this image saying that opponents make far fewer attempts against Enes than Rudy? I guess that can be explained by Rudy running toward every shot whereas Enes is sometimes going the other way and might not meet their qualifications as the rim defender. Is that what's going on here?
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They shoot far fewer attempts, not make.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
In addition to the percentages (which is an extreme difference) is this image saying that opponents make far fewer attempts against Enes than Rudy? I guess that can be explained by Rudy running toward every shot whereas Enes is sometimes going the other way and might not meet their qualifications as the rim defender. Is that what's going on here?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b8LfpARyqo

This is pretty much representative of Kanter's rim protection. Teams will try to isolate him up high because he is worthless there.
 
Also notice that Kanter is not in a position to do anything should the ball be kicked back to Nowitzki, because NO WAY he makes that three, right?
 
White Chocolate said:
They shoot far fewer attempts, not make.
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Yeah, I realize that. Bad wording on my part, but the question still stands. Why do they shoot so much more against Rudy than against Enes. The only thing I can figure is that when the shot at the rim is attempted defenders are assigned to it statistically based on proximity. Since Rudy contests everything no matter who is shooting his number is high. Since Enes often doesn't contest (even though the eventual shooter was often his man) his number is low.
 
Cy said:
IDK about that.
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According to that graphic only 5 guys protect the rim better than Aldridge (the Jazz have two of them, yay!!!) His Defensive win shares is at 3.7 which is top 20 in the League. He is MUCH improved on defense the last couple of years.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
Yeah, I realize that. Bad wording on my part, but the question still stands. Why do they shoot so much more against Rudy than against Enes. The only thing I can figure is that when the shot at the rim is attempted defenders are assigned to it statistically based on proximity. Since Rudy contests everything no matter who is shooting his number is high. Since Enes often doesn't contest (even though the eventual shooter was often his man) his number is low.
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You're correct. Rudy contests a lot, something like 65% of shots at the rim. Big difference maker.
 
Gobert contested %57.2 of shots at the rim while Enes contested %30.8. Interestingly enough Booker only contested %19.8. According to Nylon Calculus.
 
Just for the Record, Gobert will move into 16th place with a combination of points, steals, assists, blocks, and rebounds that reaches the magic number of 47. Hopefully he can get that by the second game of the season. My wife deleted the original file so I need to recalculate the top 15 in front of him. Sigh. . . .
 
Also, I noticed that #25 Neal Walk passed away a couple of weeks ago. Good guy, I was sorry to hear that.
 
#17 Olden Polynice
Points 962
Rebounds 916
Blocks 171
Steals 61
Assists 74

Olden Polynice was supposed to be the answer once Greg Ostertag started to crawl back into his shell. Initially bringing in a shot of toughness to the Last Gasp of the Stockton and Malone era he was signed as a free agent in 1999. I seemed to remember him being more effective than he actually was, averaging less than 6 points and 1 block per game. He was an excellent offensive rebounder however and provided attitude in place of the emasculated Ostertag. Unfortunately, he is best known for his "night job" of impersonating an officer, which he did twice in 2000-2001 during apparent road rage incidents, flashing his honorary LAPD badge. His third strike came later that summer when he beat the hell out of some dude at a local golf course, pretty much sealing his exit from Utah and the NBA. He was picked up for a short time by the Clippers a few years later, but couldn't stick. He later coached in the now defunct ABA and did color commentary for the WNBA.

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framer said:
Just for the Record, Gobert will move into 16th place with a combination of points, steals, assists, blocks, and rebounds that reaches the magic number of 47. Hopefully he can get that by the second game of the season. My wife deleted the original file so I need to recalculate the top 15 in front of him. Sigh. . . .
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Two words for you, framer: justifiable homicide.

Not even Officer Polynice would arrest you.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Two words for you, framer: justifiable homicide.

Not even Officer Polynice would arrest you.
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Yeah, but what am I supposed to say, "I am keeping this spreadsheet list of all of the centers that have ever played for the Utah Jazz and I am tracking them against another player then doing lengthy write ups each time that player gets more stats than a previous player all for about 30 dudes on a fan message board!"

Her- "Didn't you just say that you didn't have time to fix the refrigerator?"

Me- "sigh. . ."
 
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