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Rumor: Warriors have interest in trading for Ingles if made available by the jazz.

Elizah Huge said:
We need to stop kidding ourselves if they offered Moody in a deal for Ingles we’d be stupid not to take it. They won’t so no need to talk about it. It’s definitely just speculation I threw out that exact trade on here yesterday because it works salary wise.
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This. I love Ingles but if he’s likely to retire in a year and disappears in the playoffs anyway, why the **** wouldn’t we do this? The obvious answer is it hurts our chances to win it this year. Which is true. So I can’t say it’s a complete no-brainer. But considering our lack of assets, if we could pull this off, and somehow maybe use the TPE mid-year for someone or even sign Nader now, **** man, our roster would really be coming along.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
This. I love Ingles but if he’s likely to retire in a year and disappears in the playoffs anyway, why the **** wouldn’t we do this? The obvious answer is it hurts our chances to win it this year. Which is true. So I can’t say it’s a complete no-brainer. But considering our lack of assets, if we could pull this off, and somehow maybe use the TPE mid-year for someone or even sign Nader now, **** man, our roster would really be coming along.
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The Nader dream is sadly dead.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
So the Paschall dream is dead unless they want Oni or he’s part of a bigger trade.
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If I understand it correctly.

I am/was a little worried about a Lebron/Tristan Thompson kind of situation where Don might flex to take care of his boy and/or might be soured if that whole situation didn’t go perfectly. In other words, I think it makes that whole situation potentially more loaded.

Just a thought, though.
 


Moody is a 3&D guy folks. 6'6" with a 7'0" wingspan. Trading Ingles for Moody means we are getting younger, more athletic, and more defensive minded. He can also shoot the ball. He is exactly the type of player we are looking for.

Young, yes. But we needed bodies who could stay in front of their man but still shoot the ball. Moody is that.

Also, Paschall is the prototypical stretch 4 in today's NBA. He didn't have a great season last year because he had to share too many minutes with Wiseman. He is friends with Spida which is a plus. He is a young PJ Tucker lite.

Looney gives us competition for backup center with Doka and he is a more mobile 5 to play small ball.

If we got all 3 for Ingles AND saved $$$, I would think that was a pretty good trade. We get deeper and more flexible and handling small ball and a little more defensive minded.

I am a HUGE Ingles fan and I would, reluctantly, do this trade.
 
The thing is, I would expect GSW front office to laugh hysterically if the Jazz suggest Joe for those three guys. I don't see a trade happening here at all. They can choose between a deal we really like and they hate and one they really like and we hate.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:


Moody is a 3&D guy folks. 6'6" with a 7'0" wingspan. Trading Ingles for Moody means we are getting younger, more athletic, and more defensive minded. He can also shoot the ball. He is exactly the type of player we are looking for.

Young, yes. But we needed bodies who could stay in front of their man but still shoot the ball. Moody is that.

Also, Paschall is the prototypical stretch 4 in today's NBA. He didn't have a great season last year because he had to share too many minutes with Wiseman. He is friends with Spida which is a plus.

Looney gives us competition for backup center with Doka and he is a more mobile 5 to play small ball.

If we got all 3 for Ingles AND saved $$$, I would think that was a pretty good trade. And I am a HUGE Ingles fan.
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Yes, there’s no real debate it’s a lopsided trade in our favor over the long haul for sure.

Warriors would have to be pretty sold on Ingles signing another deal with them to do that deal. That’s a **** ton to give up for a one-year rental.
 
hgb said:
The thing is, I would expect GSW front office to laugh hysterically if the Jazz suggest Joe for those three guys. I don't see a trade happening here at all. They can choose between a deal we really like and they hate and one they really like and we hate.
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The reason for optimism in this dynamic is that the Jazz are the ones not in a hurry to grab win-now pieces. They’re in the driver’s seat in that regard, as I see it.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
Yes, there’s no real debate it’s a lopsided trade in our favor over the long haul for sure.

Warriors would have to be pretty sold on Ingles signing another deal with them to do that deal. That’s a **** ton to give up for a one-year rental.
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They’d be doing it for the same reason I’m reluctant; Having Joe vs not could swing a finals trip. I think the west is pretty wide open.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah, but if you lose Ingles you lose a playmaker for others. That would basically leave teh Jazz with just Conley and Mitchell who can do that, and maybe rookie Jared Butler.

Losing Ingles is kind of scary as his playmaking and passing is a huge part of the Jazz identity. If the Jazz lose Ingles, they are probably a bottom 10 passing team in the NBA.
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Given what's gone down so far, I'm kind of thinking that changing the identity of the team (at least somewhat) may be the directive from the top (Smith/Wade). Think we're just going to have to get used to it.
 
idiot said:
Given what's gone down so far, I'm kind of thinking that changing the identity of the team (at least somewhat) may be the directive from the top (Smith/Wade). Think we're just going to have to get used to it.
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But getting rid of playmakers seems like exactly the wrong direction to go in, especially with our limited super max player.
 
hgb said:
The thing is, I would expect GSW front office to laugh hysterically if the Jazz suggest Joe for those three guys. I don't see a trade happening here at all. They can choose between a deal we really like and they hate and one they really like and we hate.
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I don't know (given the tax issues of both teams) how GSW could even propose a deal going after Ingles without including these three guys. I think this is their only(or only semi-realistic) path.
 
NUMBERICA said:
But getting rid of playmakers seems like exactly the wrong direction to go in, especially with our limited super max player.
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Understand your point, but the very fact that there's so much smoke around Ingles (including to the Cavs, where you would have to think the play would be either Nance [probably moot now] or some kind of salary dump) makes it hard to imagine what else they may be up to.
 
Wait a minute guys… something else could work and save us a **** ton of salary on top of it.

Warriors sign-and-trade Oubre to a 3rd team while also sending us Moody and Paschall.

They get Ingles and player(s)/picks from the 3rd team.

We would save 7.7M in salary as well.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Wait a minute guys… something else could work and save us a **** ton of salary on top of it.

Warriors sign-and-trade Oubre to a 3rd team while also sending us Moody and Paschall.

They get Ingles and picks from the 3rd team.

We would save 7.7M in salary as well.
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Thought about this, it’s good. But having Looney would probably be useful.

Edit: actually... nah, the savings are better.
 


Not that hard to get creative I got it handled. Anyone have Bob Myers’s cell number?
 
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