Santa is white. Is it wrong?

[addictionary]

Of course. Try convincing AKMVP of this. He seems to think there are only 3 races: Black, white, Asian.

Weird assumption to be held onto in this era.

And there is only one race if you go into the roots.

And it's the black man.

Whether if Jesus was one or not.

 

[MVP]

Can't. I haven't seen any reasonable argument for any particular race.

Some biblical references say he was white: Clarks' commentary accepts Lamentations 4:7 "whiter than milk" as referring to skin color. Some describes him as "fairer than the children of men", often interpreted as his physical description.
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[MVP]

And there is only one race if you go into the roots.

And it's the black man.

Obviously I am not arguing about our ancestors originating from Africa. What I am arguing is about physical appearance of Jesus.

 

[MVP]

1. Do you consider Arabs "white" (in general)?

2. What about South Asians (those from the Indian sub-continent)? Are they white? Are they the same race as East Asians?

3. If one white man impregnates 100 black women, how many of those children are "white"?

I can't understand how your points about Arabs and black women are relevant to this topic. You should be asking how many kids will be more white if one roman or greek impregnates 100 levantian women.

 

[MVP]

Native American has been viewed as a separate race, although there is evidence of asian and even european influence in the genes, if I remember correctly.

native american belong to mongoloid race - there is only mormon tale that they have jewish influence which is not supported by any science.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

native american belong to mongoloid race - there is only mormon tale that they have jewish influence which is not supported by any science.

The three skull types were losing favor when I was in school and has so many exceptions that mongoloid, negroid, and caucasoid skulls cannot accurately predict what that individuals skin color was.

Sorry.

I'm also wondering how much melanin someone has to have to be considered not white.

 

[addictionary]

Obviously I am not arguing about our ancestors originating from Africa. What I am arguing is about physical appearance of Jesus.

Brother, it cannot be confirmed until a proof is found from the actual body of Jesus, a drawing by someone that actually saw him or someone in his family. He probably was not white or white-ish Jewish, and that's why he suffered so much. Romans were known to have that kind of attitude. The new Roman Empire is the USA and they are not making the same mistakes their strategical ancestors did.

 

[One Brow]

no, what I am saying is that men were more responsible for genetic diversity then women.

The male was more diverse from the female than the female was from the male? Men had more children from outside their group than women did?

I don't think you can phrase this sensibly.

 

[One Brow]

Native American has been viewed as a separate race, although there is evidence of asian and even european influence in the genes, if I remember correctly.

And african "black" is distinctly different from Indian and Pakastani "black", with differences in facial structure, skeletal development and musculature.

I remembered that from a couple of human genetics classes I took in college, ...

Not too mention Australian natives and Pacific Ocean natives.

Human diversity is relatively smooth, making racial divisions arbitrary.

 

[Harambe]

Most the black portraits came out of Ethiopia iirc.

Isn't that also where that group thinks they guard the ark of the covenant?

 

[One Brow]

Some biblical references say he was white: Clarks' commentary accepts Lamentations 4:7 "whiter than milk" as referring to skin color. Some describes him as "fairer than the children of men", often interpreted as his physical description..

I can quote Revelations that his skin was bronze. None of these amounts to evidence of any sort.

 

[LogGrad98]

Revelation, sans s.

 

[MVP]

The male was more diverse from the female than the female was from the male? Men had more children from outside their group than women did?

I don't think you can phrase this sensibly.

Come on, you are better than this. Roman legion warrior comes to middle east and rapes ( or has consensual sex with) 20 local women. They deliver 20 children which have 50% of Roman blood. Isn't this so difficult to understand? Anywhere where wars happened conquerors altered local genoms by killing local men and impregnating local women - plenty historic facts like that. Not sure what you guys are arguing about here.

 

[One Brow]

Come on, you are better than this. Roman legion warrior comes to middle east and rapes ( or has consensual sex with) 20 local women. They deliver 20 children which have 50% of Roman blood. Isn't this so difficult to understand? Anywhere where wars happened conquerors altered local genoms by killing local men and impregnating local women - plenty historic facts like that. Not sure what you guys are arguing about here.

So, by "responsible", you meant men initiated sex/rape more often.

 

[MVP]

So, by "responsible", you meant men initiated sex/rape more often.

Ask any breeder what is more valuable for breeding programs - good stud/male or good female. It is so simple, I am not sure why you guys make it so complicated.

 

[GVC]

Ask any breeder what is more valuable for breeding programs - good stud/male or good female. It is so simple, I am not sure why you guys make it so complicated.

The point was that the female half of Israelis' ancestry differs considerably from that of other inhabitants of the Levant. Someone who has an Asian mother and European father is going to look different than someone with two European parents. Is this simple enough for you?

 

[MVP]

The point was that the female half of Israelis' ancestry differs considerably from that of other inhabitants of the Levant. Someone who has an Asian mother and European father is going to look different than someone with two European parents. Is this simple enough for you?

It will look different than someone with two Asian parents as well. And if invasions and occupations by Europeans stretches for hundreds of years then original genome will be diluted to the point that it will look more European then Asian.

 

[GVC]

Holy **** your comprehension level is low. Israelis and other Levantine people differ considerably. The European heritage of modern Israelis is not due to conquest in Israel, but from the Jewish diaspora into Europe.

 

[One Brow]

Ask any breeder what is more valuable for breeding programs - good stud/male or good female. It is so simple, I am not sure why you guys make it so complicated.

Humans were in a breeding program 2000 year ago in the Middle East? How is this connected in any way to the source of diversity in an area?

It's not complicated to me. The only complication seems to be you forcing some sort of sex-based differential in the source of diversity in an area, when there is no natural fit.

 

[MVP]

Holy **** your comprehension level is low. Israelis and other Levantine people differ considerably.

Examples please? I showed pictures of Israeli basketball team and dude from Lebanon, I said about my friends from Palestine - they look all white to me, no different then Italian, Greek or Spanish.