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Santa is white. Is it wrong?

JimLes said:
Same as any identity. You need to meet two conditions. One, you have to consider yourself part of that group. Two, other members of that group must consider you part of it. If either condition isn't met, you're not part of it.
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JimLes said:
I know English isn't your first language, but come on. Or did you purposely skip this?
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You clearly say if EITHER condition isn't met. Did you purposely skip this?
 
JimLes said:
I know English isn't your first language, but come on. Or did you purposely skip this?
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Is English your first language? You are the one who clearly stated that both conditions had to be met.

So is it that one condition has to be met? Because if that is the case, then you are a white person, as others would maybe consider you white.
 
Stoked said:
You clearly say if EITHER condition isn't met. Did you purposely skip this?
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If either condition isn't met, than you AREN'T member of a group. In other words, both conditions NEED to be meet. Jesus ****ing Christ, I'm going to have to start using simpler sentences for the dunces, clearly.
 
JimLes said:
If either condition isn't met, than you AREN'T member of a group. In other words, both conditions NEED to be meet. Jesus ****ing Christ, I'm going to have to start using simpler sentences for the dunces, clearly.
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I don't consider my self white anymore. So I'm no longer white.
 
JimLes said:
If either condition isn't met, than you AREN'T member of a group. In other words, both conditions NEED to be meet. Jesus ****ing Christ, I'm going to have to start using simpler sentences for the dunces, clearly.
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So what akmvp said was correct then? If a black guy decides one day that he is no longer black, then he just magically becomes something else because he said so?
 
b_line said:
So what akmvp said was correct then? If a black guy decides one day that he is no longer black, then he just magically becomes something else because he said so?
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Nice try. Here's the exact quote.

So if some crazy nutbar black guy for some reason thinks he is white
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Again, feel free to ignore the part where I said that in order to be white, the white community must also consider you white.
 
What if for a sec we take into account that SANTA is not real. I think if he was real he would probably look like Obama giving out Obamacare and Obamaphones. Who else give others stuff they haven't earned. So, black Santa is black and he is a communist.
 
JimLes said:
Nice try. Here's the exact quote.



Again, feel free to ignore the part where I said that in order to be white, the white community must also consider you white.
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So then the black guy would be nothing?

Whites don't consider him white, and he doesn't consider himself black so he would be imaginary then
I get it now
 
fishonjazz said:
So then the black guy would be nothing?

Whites don't consider him white, and he doesn't consider himself black so he would be imaginary then
I get it now
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I was wrong.

This former black man would now be considered gray under jim les rules.

Thanks hey hey.

Oh and I'm no longer white too.

#graypride
 
heyhey said:
Stoked, Jesus, and myself are officially gray.

GRAY PRIDE
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b_line said:
I have given out too much rep lately. I have to rep this tomorrow. Literally lol'ed. Best few posts of the night.

#graypride
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fishonjazz said:
I was wrong.

This former black man would now be considered gray under jim les rules.

Thanks hey hey.

Oh and I'm no longer white too.

#graypride
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Rise up my brothers! Cast down this yoke of oppression and misunderstanding saddled on us by our northern neighbors. United we can end their tyranny and inability to understand what they are saying!

#Graypride
 
LogGrad98 said:
According to wikipedia there is a very small percentage who think Jesus did not exist as a historical figure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
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The figure I read may have been exaggerated. It may also depend on who's doing the counting.

From the wikipedia quote, I would certainly agree that it's a distinct minority (even as much as 1/3 would still be a distinct minority). Also, it's quite possible to deny the historicity of Jesus and not think he was a "invention", which sounds like a deliberate creation.
 
JimLes said:
If either condition isn't met, than you AREN'T member of a group. In other words, both conditions NEED to be meet. Jesus ****ing Christ, I'm going to have to start using simpler sentences for the dunces, clearly.
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The only simpler sentence you need to use is "my bad, I should have clarified my argument instead of going on attack mode."

We know what you were trying to say, but you certainly left it ambiguous. Don't be a tool, learn to admit when you made a mistake.
 
JimLes said:
Same as any identity. You need to meet two conditions. One, you have to consider yourself part of that group. Two, other members of that group must consider you part of it. If either condition isn't met, you're not part of it.
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You can be treated as part of a racial group by others, even if you don't consider yourself part of that group. That treatment by others affects your identity.
 
dodo said:
Is Deron Williams white or black?
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We would need to ask him according to JimLes definition. BTW isn't this years Jazz the most black Jazz team ever? Hayward is the only white person we have now right?
 
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