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Scary that George Hill means this much to the Jazz success.

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Sure I thought he was a nice pickup. But I didn't realize he would be the end all to this teams success. Pretty horrifying that even with Hood, Hayward, Exum and Gobert the Jazz are still a bottom feeder in the league.

You would think those 4 starters could still do something.
 
It's more of just having anyone who can make a jumpshot at the PG position.

Exum is improving, but he still isnt good for our offense in the half-court.
 
Hill makes us better but we would be doing well without him if we had a healthy Hayward, Favors and Burks.
 
Hill makes us better but we would be doing well without him if we had a healthy Hayward, Favors and Burks.

Hayward is playing pretty well, even if he is not at 100%. We miss Favors and Hill, but I don't think we're missing much with Burks.
 
We are just playing bad. We are shooting poorly and it's getting guys down. You can see it in the effort and the body language. We aren't fired up. We should be winning these games even with Hill, Favors and Burks out.

When you have guys going 3/12(Rodney), 3/15(Hayward) and 1/8(Mack) and less than 100% effort(Diaw) you get the L.

That's why Quin should hold guys accountable. Bolomboy should have seen time on the court. He was a spark when he got out there.
 
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No Favors, no Alec, and an unhealthy Gtime... Thats a lot more then just "no Hill." Give us a healthy Favors and Gordon and we have several more wins already.
 
It's not just Hill... Missing Favors is at least as detrimental as missing Hill. Our PF position is horrific right now.
 
We are just playing bad. We are shooting poorly and it's getting guys down. You can see it in the effort and the body language. We aren't fired up. We should be winning these games even with Hill, Favors and Burks out.

When you have guys going 3/12(Rodney), 3/15(Hayward) and 1/8(Mack) and less than 100% effort(Diaw) you get the L.

That's why Quin should hold guys accountable. Bolomboy should have seen time on the court. He was a spark when he got out there.

Yes this is where a coach with a real system would help a lot.
 
It's not just Hill... Missing Favors is at least as detrimental as missing Hill. Our PF position is horrific right now.

Disagree. We were doing pretty decently at the beginning with Hill and no Favors. No Hayward too for that matter. The wheels fell off when Hill went down.
 
Disagree. We were doing pretty decently at the beginning with Hill and no Favors. No Hayward too for that matter. The wheels fell off when Hill went down.

I also think that teams have adjusted to what we are doing. Quin's sets are designed to create mismatches with screen and rolls on the perimeter, but in today's NBA more teams have players that can handle switches making these plays largely ineffective.

I feel like we have a ton of talent on this squad. We should be winning a ton more, even with the injuries. Ultimately, I see our ****ty offense causing Hayward to leave at the end of the season, and we'll see him excel in a different system.
 
I also think that teams have adjusted to what we are doing. Quin's sets are designed to create mismatches with screen and rolls on the perimeter, but in today's NBA more teams have players that can handle switches making these plays largely ineffective.

I feel like we have a ton of talent on this squad. We should be winning a ton more, even with the injuries. Ultimately, I see our ****ty offense causing Hayward to leave at the end of the season, and we'll see him excel in a different system.

Most discouraging over the last few games is that Hayward is obviously not max money talent.
 
I also think that teams have adjusted to what we are doing. Quin's sets are designed to create mismatches with screen and rolls on the perimeter, but in today's NBA more teams have players that can handle switches making these plays largely ineffective.

I feel like we have a ton of talent on this squad. We should be winning a ton more, even with the injuries...

I'm also suspecting that we've become too predictable. But the injuries are heavily impacting where we can find mismatches. Our system is more impacted by that than, say, Ol' Jer and Johnson's system. That's worth thinking about.
 
How well? Without Hill, we're basically the same team that couldn't make the playoffs the last couple of years.
Last year's team would have made the playoffs if they were healthy. Exum missed the whole season so did Burks basically. Favors and Gobert missed good chunks. Plus we were a very young team. Young players improve and we have some more vets.
 
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