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Should have trusted my GUT! Schroeder!

Because of all the posts saying Schroeder over Burke I watched the hawks and heat play yesterday. Schroeder had moments where he did things that were awesome. He cleanly picked miami's point guard so fast it was amaZing. However he also did things that made me scratch my head. Like giving miami's point guard the lane to the basket and pulling up for a wide open jump shot that shattered the backboard from the top of the key. After watching both play, burke is far ahead of Schroeder. That may change in a couple years but right now its burke and it not close.
 
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Because of all the posts saying Schroeder over Burkes I watched the hawks and heat play yesterday. Schroeder had moments where he did things that were awesome. He cleanly picked miami's point guard so fast it was amaZing. However he also did things that made me scratch my head. Like giving miami's point guard the lane to the basket and pulling up for a wide open jump shot that shattered the backboard from the top of the key. After watching both play burkes is far ahead of Schroeder. That may change in a couple years but right now its burkes and it not close.

Reported to Colton.
Prepare for swift kick to the rear end.
 
I wanted Schroeder and then CJ then Burke. I wasn't initially happy that the Jazz moved up to get Burke because we gave up both picks. I got on board because everyone was ecstatic about landing Burke. However, I was fine with all three. I had concerns about all three.

My concern about Burke was his size and his athleticism.
CJ was he really a PG
Schroeder was his attitude/maturity and his shot.

Time will tell and going by SL is ridiculous. Many of the top draftees have struggled in SL. Porter, McLemore, Olapido and Burke are all busts based upon their SL performances.
Agree. I, too, was expecting Schroeder to be drafted by Utah. I thought they'd take Olynyk at #14 and then trade up if it looked like both Schroeder and Larkin would be off the board at #21. I was thrilled when the Jazz was able to get Burke and then Gobert. Burke will always be limited due to his size. I hope he develops into a solid PG; I don't see him ever being all-star quality.
 
True, but his defense more than made up for it.

Can't say the same thing about Burke who also was incredibly inefficient.

Should I go and find at least 50 posts, that are you blowing your load over getting Burke? He has a bad Summer League and now he's a scrub, and some guy who had an incredibly average game is now Rondo? RELAX.


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Kinda like you're dating the Older Sister, but then she took you home for dinner, and then you realized the Younger Sister is wayyyyyyyyyy cuter.

What do you do??

What do you do???????????

After having been in such a situation a couple years ago, I'd go with the older sister 9/10 times! Plus I've had an "interesting" year with one "younger sister" kind of girl. After that I increase to 19/20.

But the game of basketball is not about being happy reaching 8th place, losing to the #1 seed and later champion in a game 7 with each game decided by 5 or less points and afterwards calling urself the "real runner up" performance wise and the series a final in advance.
The game of basketball is getting the hottest team right now, hanging out with your friends who start offering you a Porsche and swear to leave their wife just for a single night with your girl. That's basketball unless it's 2004 or 2011.
 
After having been in such a situation a couple years ago, I'd go with the older sister 9/10 times! Plus I've had an "interesting" year with one "younger sister" kind of girl. After that I increase to 19/20.

But the game of basketball is not about being happy reaching 8th place, losing to the #1 seed and later champion in a game 7 with each game decided by 5 or less points and afterwards calling urself the "real runner up" performance wise and the series a final in advance.
The game of basketball is getting the hottest team right now, hanging out with your friends who start offering you a Porsche and swear to leave their wife just for a single night with your girl. That's basketball unless it's 2004 or 2011.

Can you please elaborate on this? Why were you so put off by the "younger sister"?
 
LOL.. if you hadn't noticed, that's how we roll..
Jazzfanz used to be a decent forum! Icannot say it is the former self

and to some extent is still good (owing to the posts like the one below)

I wanted Schroeder and then CJ then Burke. I wasn't initially happy that the Jazz moved up to get Burke because we gave up both picks. I got on board because everyone was ecstatic about landing Burke. However, I was fine with all three. I had concerns about all three.

My concern about Burke was his size and his athleticism.
CJ was he really a PG
Schroeder was his attitude/maturity and his shot.

Time will tell and going by SL is ridiculous. Many of the top draftees have struggled in SL. Porter, McLemore, Olapido and Burke are all busts based upon their SL performances.
 
Can you please elaborate on this? Why were you so put off by the "younger sister"?

Well I said similar. Actually I first met the younger sister and while she didn't show much interest dating wise, she loved hangin out with me or talking to me about personal and other matters. I tried to spark her interest into me and circumvent the friendzone situation, and eventually came close to succeeding in it. In the period of time that lead to us dating I also spent significant time getting to know her sister who as it turned out later had interest in me. But she first encouraged her sister to give me a shot. After she didn't want to get more intimate or develop a deeper connection with me, we slowed it down naturally. I guess I just wasn't her kind of guy somehow. Couple months later I exclusively stayed in touch with her older sister, as the younger tried to friendzone me but I cut off the contact. Just told her I won't give her relationship advice after being myself interested in her. So I moved on.
That's when her sister came front and told me straight up that she had a crush on me. I was like: Yeah that's awkward right now after me pursuing her sister and she playing a role in it. She was like: yeah she's my sister and I love her, so I supported her to give you a shot and that. But if she doesn't value you I go get it.
Naturally I liked her too, but thought that's way too weird to have a serious relationship with. I knew that would be long term, not just an affair. And that would be kinda weird running into my former crush too often. jealousy and competition inevitable.
So it was kinda the other way around. But that was my heart of gold vs youth situation. And I sensed earlier while pursuing the younger one, that I definately had a shot with the older one. So I probably made up my mind about the situation unconsciously.

And the latter one was a girl I presumed had the heart of gold + youth/(exotic) looks(she was nearly 4 years younger than I was, biggest age difference I experienced up to this point). Yeah kinda turned out the heart of gold turned into ice after half a year with me waiting it to shapeshift again with no success. So we naturally started to clash as I want to think I have a heart of gold and we both became increasingly unhappy with the situation with me trying to bring back the girl I initially got to know. But she refused to accept my love/kindness. Thus at some point I didn't want to continue suffering silently and stopped fighting too. I had always sympathy and empathy with her as she was a rape + social abuse victim in her youth by her step father and mother, who couldn't stand that she looked like her former husband who abandoned her.

Ye but these two experiences kinda caused me to value a heart of gold way more compared to looks/youth only. Cause they're going to age as well. And if it's a permanent connection, why risk to enjoy her company less for the majority of the time you spend together. Plus a happy/sympathic person almost always has a more positive aura that I sense and makes me feel more secure/comfortable after the first stage of love, when you try to get to know the other person as good as you can and get accustomed to her while everything is exciting is gone and you look for the small things. That's something which is increasingly important to me the longer I know a girl.

But the NBA cycles are more short term than life cycles.
 
Well I said similar. Actually I first met the younger sister and while she didn't show much interest dating wise, she loved hangin out with me or talking to me about personal and other matters. I tried to spark her interest into me and circumvent the friendzone situation, and eventually came close to succeeding in it. In the period of time that lead to us dating I also spent significant time getting to know her sister who as it turned out later had interest in me. But she first encouraged her sister to give me a shot. After she didn't want to get more intimate or develop a deeper connection with me, we slowed it down naturally. I guess I just wasn't her kind of guy somehow. Couple months later I exclusively stayed in touch with her older sister, as the younger tried to friendzone me but I cut off the contact. Just told her I won't give her relationship advice after being myself interested in her. So I moved on.
That's when her sister came front and told me straight up that she had a crush on me. I was like: Yeah that's awkward right now after me pursuing her sister and she playing a role in it. She was like: yeah she's my sister and I love her, so I supported her to give you a shot and that. But if she doesn't value you I go get it.
Naturally I liked her too, but thought that's way too weird to have a serious relationship with. I knew that would be long term, not just an affair. And that would be kinda weird running into my former crush too often. jealousy and competition inevitable.
So it was kinda the other way around. But that was my heart of gold vs youth situation. And I sensed earlier while pursuing the younger one, that I definately had a shot with the older one. So I probably made up my mind about the situation unconsciously.

And the latter one was a girl I presumed had the heart of gold + youth/(exotic) looks(she was nearly 4 years younger than I was, biggest age difference I experienced up to this point). Yeah kinda turned out the heart of gold turned into ice after half a year with me waiting it to shapeshift again with no success. So we naturally started to clash as I want to think I have a heart of gold and we both became increasingly unhappy with the situation with me trying to bring back the girl I initially got to know. But she refused to accept my love/kindness. Thus at some point I didn't want to continue suffering silently and stopped fighting too. I had always sympathy and empathy with her as she was a rape + social abuse victim in her youth by her step father and mother, who couldn't stand that she looked like her former husband who abandoned her.

Ye but these two experiences kinda caused me to value a heart of gold way more compared to looks/youth only. Cause they're going to age as well. And if it's a permanent connection, why risk to enjoy her company less for the majority of the time you spend together. Plus a happy/sympathic person almost always has a more positive aura that I sense and makes me feel more secure/comfortable after the first stage of love, when you try to get to know the other person as good as you can and get accustomed to her while everything is exciting is gone and you look for the small things. That's something which is increasingly important to me the longer I know a girl.

But the NBA cycles are more short term than life cycles.

This is "Post of The Year" worthy. Thank you for sharing this. I especially like your conclusion in the last paragraph highlighted.

Rep'd HARD!!
 
Schroeder 2/8, 0/5 from 3pt, 3 assists and 3 turnovers in Summer League tonight. Finished with 8 pts.

Also had 6 fouls guarding Nando De Colo and Cory Joseph of the Spurs.
 
Well I said similar. Actually I first met the younger sister and while she didn't show much interest dating wise, she loved hangin out with me or talking to me about personal and other matters. I tried to spark her interest into me and circumvent the friendzone situation, and eventually came close to succeeding in it. In the period of time that lead to us dating I also spent significant time getting to know her sister who as it turned out later had interest in me. But she first encouraged her sister to give me a shot. After she didn't want to get more intimate or develop a deeper connection with me, we slowed it down naturally. I guess I just wasn't her kind of guy somehow. Couple months later I exclusively stayed in touch with her older sister, as the younger tried to friendzone me but I cut off the contact. Just told her I won't give her relationship advice after being myself interested in her. So I moved on.
That's when her sister came front and told me straight up that she had a crush on me. I was like: Yeah that's awkward right now after me pursuing her sister and she playing a role in it. She was like: yeah she's my sister and I love her, so I supported her to give you a shot and that. But if she doesn't value you I go get it.
Naturally I liked her too, but thought that's way too weird to have a serious relationship with. I knew that would be long term, not just an affair. And that would be kinda weird running into my former crush too often. jealousy and competition inevitable.
So it was kinda the other way around. But that was my heart of gold vs youth situation. And I sensed earlier while pursuing the younger one, that I definately had a shot with the older one. So I probably made up my mind about the situation unconsciously.

And the latter one was a girl I presumed had the heart of gold + youth/(exotic) looks(she was nearly 4 years younger than I was, biggest age difference I experienced up to this point). Yeah kinda turned out the heart of gold turned into ice after half a year with me waiting it to shapeshift again with no success. So we naturally started to clash as I want to think I have a heart of gold and we both became increasingly unhappy with the situation with me trying to bring back the girl I initially got to know. But she refused to accept my love/kindness. Thus at some point I didn't want to continue suffering silently and stopped fighting too. I had always sympathy and empathy with her as she was a rape + social abuse victim in her youth by her step father and mother, who couldn't stand that she looked like her former husband who abandoned her.

Ye but these two experiences kinda caused me to value a heart of gold way more compared to looks/youth only. Cause they're going to age as well. And if it's a permanent connection, why risk to enjoy her company less for the majority of the time you spend together. Plus a happy/sympathic person almost always has a more positive aura that I sense and makes me feel more secure/comfortable after the first stage of love, when you try to get to know the other person as good as you can and get accustomed to her while everything is exciting is gone and you look for the small things. That's something which is increasingly important to me the longer I know a girl.

But the NBA cycles are more short term than life cycles.

Thanks for sharing this. It was real sweet.
 
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