Should Mitt release his tax returns?

[northeast]

spazz, but the accountant is not responsible if they relied on bad input from the client. there might be lawsuits, exceptions, arguments, but this is generally true

 

[SaltyDawg]

Even better than just raising taxes on corp's and rich people... add to that the loopholes they want of tax breaks if they invest their money into US jobs, or companies that create US Jobs somehow. They will always look for the tax breaks, so give it to them... just funnel it into something that helps our nation. Better than cheaper products for the world, funnel it into US services, manufacturing, and whatever it takes. Then they get the breaks they are looking for and will find one way or another, but the "common americans" get some sort of benefit from this.

Believe it or not, I'm not necessarily against raising taxes for corporations and rich people, as long as it is done in such a way that it actually helps people.

If only we could get the bought and paid for robots in Washington to start thinking like this.

 

[SaltyDawg]

That's a nice gesture but the Saltocrats of the world aren't interested in fixing anything they claim is wrong with America. That's why Obama stood back doing absolutely nothing for two years of full control. The Salty/Rev9/Thriller/Northeast types would rather watch the world burn than fix it because burning is the only way for them to achieve their goal of destroying everyone who's achieved anything.

You realize that the only reason nothing gets done is because the Republicans' main goal is obstruction, right? More filibusters than anytime in history, voted lots of time on meaningless obamacare repeals that they knew meant nothing, yet haven't voted on a jobs bill.

 

[franklin]

all lies, as well as your previous post.
why don't you look it up FOR ONCE, quote your sources, and show us your calculations , so we can laugh at your BS.

Lazy and hates being informed--the perfect Obama voter.

 

[Scat]

That's a nice gesture but the Saltocrats of the world aren't interested in fixing anything they claim is wrong with America. That's why Obama stood back doing absolutely nothing for two years of full control. The Salty/Rev9/Thriller/Northeast types would rather watch the world burn than fix it because burning is the only way for them to achieve their goal of destroying everyone who's achieved anything.

Have you watched The Dark Knight Rises yet?

 

[franklin]

No, I mean the Bush tax cuts that Obama was forced to extend by a bunch of Republicans that had more filibusters than any other time in history.

haha, hilarious. Too bad it's not "for every job that goes overseas another job must return." If that were the case then our economy would be fine. Putting another dollar in the CEO's pocket isn't doing much for this country anymore.

It doesn't matter if stuff gets cheaper when the people who would be interested in that product don't even have a job. Unless they're literally giving the stuff away, of course. A 20% savings is little consolation to the guy who just had his job outsourced to China and can't find another job.

It's quite obvious you are nowhere near as well read or have a fraction of the understand on this subject that I do. I don't blame you though, your responses are typical of common bar drunks spouting trade deficit, anti-Chinese/Mexican rhetoric between gulps of PBR. Some grow up and learn a little with age, some don't.

 

[SaltyDawg]

It's quite obvious you are nowhere near as well read or have a fraction of the understand on this subject that I do. I don't blame you though, your responses are typical of common bar drunks spouting trade deficit, anti-Chinese/Mexican rhetoric between gulps of PBR. Some grow up and learn a little with age, some don't.

Great post. Except it wasn't.

 

[Captain Lobster]

I remember him fighting to keep the student loan rates low and payroll tax low. I remember him cutting out the middle man so federal financial aid (for students) is no longer handled by profit seeking banks.

Keep student loan rates low??
Did you get student loans recently?
I pay nearly 7% interest rate on my student loan, where my sister, who only graduated a few years before me, pays 1.5%.
Oh yeah, I pay mine to the government, she pays hers to a "profit seeking bank".

 

[northeast]

Keep student loan rates low??
Did you get student loans recently?
I pay nearly 7% interest rate on my student loan, where my sister, who only graduated a few years before me, pays 1.5%.
Oh yeah, I pay mine to the government, she pays hers to a "profit seeking bank".

gesicht, banks that do student loans are mostly getting the money from the gov, and just acting as a middle man.
Your sister might have been getting a different kind of loan, and using it for school, I don't know the details,.
Interest rates can vary for all sorts of reasons, it might have been just timing.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

gesicht, banks that do student loans are mostly getting the money from the gov, and just acting as a middle man.
Your sister might have been getting a different kind of loan, and using it for school, I don't know the details,.
Interest rates can vary for all sorts of reasons, it might have been just timing.

Nope... the rates went up at some point, don't remember the year. Students that get loans now are getting hit much harder than if you did it before the hike.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Keep student loan rates low??
Did you get student loans recently?
I pay nearly 7% interest rate on my student loan, where my sister, who only graduated a few years before me, pays 1.5%.
Oh yeah, I pay mine to the government, she pays hers to a "profit seeking bank".

Just be glad Obama didn't let the rates double like they were supposed to.

 

[franklin]

Great post. Except it wasn't.

You've beaten the same drum for years but never provide a shred of impiracle evidence to back up your fanatical claims (because there isn't any). Outsourcing creates jobs, but what does Yale, Harvard, and every other leading instituion not know that Salty does?

Keep student loan rates low??
Did you get student loans recently?
I pay nearly 7% interest rate on my student loan, where my sister, who only graduated a few years before me, pays 1.5%.
Oh yeah, I pay mine to the government, she pays hers to a "profit seeking bank".

The student loan bubble is just another propoganda red herring of the left just as the municipal bond bubble was propoganda from the right. The vast majority of student loans are highly serviceable and graduates are by and large in high demand. Graduates pretty much missed this entire recession with a low unemployment rate. Imagine that, get more skilled and have a job.

This is why we need to focus on assisting with education of willing Americans. You would think Savior Obama would have found some money in that $700,000,000,000 stimulus program for a few college students, but instead he cut higher education spending while increasing the millitary budget faster than any president covered under the modern data set. But yeah, Savior Obama loves us and sucks less than Romney.

 

[northeast]

spaz, you said nope, and then verified my 3rd line.

 

[PearlWatson]

Graduates pretty much missed this entire recession with a low unemployment rate. Imagine that, get more skilled and have a job.

Tell that to my engineering graduate brothers.

 

[northeast]

Franklin, you keep mocking other people about sources or evidence, and never provide a source or evidence for all your drivel.

 

[SaltyDawg]

You've beaten the same drum for years but never provide a shred of impiracle evidence to back up your fanatical claims (because there isn't any). Outsourcing creates jobs, but what does Yale, Harvard, and every other leading instituion not know that Salty does?

Sure, outsourcing creates jobs (in China/India/Mexico/etc). Just look at the USA's booming economy and record low unemployment rate to see all the jobs created by outsourcing.

 

[PearlWatson]

Just look at the USA's booming economy and record low unemployment rate to see all the jobs created by outsourcing.

Obamanomics.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Obamanomics.

What Obama policies? If you want to talk about Obamanomics then you out much have to mention the state of the economy when he took office, add how it has been (slowly) getting better ever since.

 

[franklin]

Tell that to my engineering graduate brothers.

Engineering has been the leading middle class job category for quite some time. If they have a problem finding work then they're probably in the construction industry. You should join hands on an infrastructure jobs bill and quite hurting your two brothers.

Sure, outsourcing creates jobs (in China/India/Mexico/etc). Just look at the USA's booming economy and record low unemployment rate to see all the jobs created by outsourcing.

You keep propogating cave-aged worries like the fishing net putting people out of work and the John Deere tractor putting people out of work and the cancer radiation keeping too many workers alive for too long and taking healthy people's jobs and the automobile bringing in outside goods and the trains saving too much fuel and putting teemsters union workers out of work as well as cleaning up the air too much and putting too many clean air industry workers out of work.

Let me know when you start embracing change.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

gesicht, banks that do student loans are mostly getting the money from the gov, and just acting as a middle man.
Your sister might have been getting a different kind of loan, and using it for school, I don't know the details,.
Interest rates can vary for all sorts of reasons, it might have been just timing.

Nope... the rates went up at some point, don't remember the year. Students that get loans now are getting hit much harder than if you did it before the hike.

spaz, you said nope, and then verified my 3rd line.

Let me clarify. Yes interest rates can vary for all sorts of reasons. The reason Student Loan interest rates are high now is that the government raised the rates on Federal Student loans. Those loans were raised... if by timing you mean the difference between getting a loan before the rate hike, and after... then sure. If you mean timing year by year, you will have a small difference but not to account for 1.5% to 7%.

Gesicht's sister very well could have had the exact same loan, just different year.

Point is, Federal Student Loan interest rates were raised dramatically, period.