Should Obama stop this?

[franklin]

Healthcare added another 23,000 jobs last month and has been the fastest growing sector of the US economy, so much so that it now amounts to 18% of GDP. Democrats keep telling us that our decisions to spend money on healthcare at this rate is way too high and something must be done to reverse this detrimental trend. There are way too many people working in this industry collecting money from poor old ladies, er something.

So my question to the democrats here is do you think Obama should step in and crush this jobs growth in order to reign in hc spending? Should he dictate hc workers like nurses work for lower wages? What's the democratic take here?

(hope the poll choices are entertaining)

 

[TroutBum]

I don't know or care. My wife works for St. Marks and she makes almost $200.00 per shift. And she's on the low end of the pay scale because she had zero experience. Once she qualifies for benefits (shortly, boo ya), we just get to pile cherry's on top.

 

[GoJazz]

This is a tough issue because we no longer have a free market. See if we had a free market I would say let health care correct itself but since it is so heavily subsidised by the federal government I am not sure you can count on the market to correct an issue. This is the issue with the government getting involved with the private sector. It is harder to take away a subsidy then provide one. (Short Term)

 

[franklin]

I don't know or care. My wife works for St. Marks and she makes almost $200.00 per shift. And she's on the low end of the pay scale because she had zero experience. Once she qualifies for benefits (shortly, boo ya), we just get to pile cherry's on top.

Your wife is a great American.




Sick kids on a cold Saturday sucks!x!

 

[TroutBum]

Your wife is a great American.




Sick kids on a cold Saturday sucks!x!

You must be psychic. Ash is at work right now while I'm home watching two sick kids, and it's colder than a well diggers *** outside. Amazing.

 

[LogGrad98]

You must be psychic. Ash is at work right now while I'm home watching two sick kids, and it's colder than a well diggers *** outside. Amazing.

I haven't rubbed many well-diggers asses so I will take your word for it.

 

[franklin]

You must be psychic. Ash is at work right now while I'm home watching two sick kids, and it's colder than a well diggers *** outside. Amazing.

Want to compare? I think we're on our 12th time listening to Flo Rida Right Round, Chimpunk style.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fr6I-19PIE

Awesome yo!

 

[TroutBum]

Ugh, I just watched ANOTHER episode of the Blackyardigans. "Yo, I'm Unique-wa..." I despises that show, but the girls love it. Between that and Strawberry Shortcake on "The Hub" (a whole 'nother rant, but seriously, The Hub has to be one of the worst stations I've ever come across. It is ALL about advertising and commercials targeting kids and stupid people alike -- really horrible), I want to die.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

This is a tough issue because we no longer have a free market. See if we had a free market I would say let health care correct itself but since it is so heavily subsidised by the federal government I am not sure you can count on the market to correct an issue. This is the issue with the government getting involved with the private sector. It is harder to take away a subsidy then provide one. (Short Term)

How would the free market correct health care??? People sick and die would choose to not go to the doctors. Problems solved lets just quite going to the doctors and or hospitals. It will solve our problems in two fold hospitals will have to lay off workers and reduce what they charge; Plus, there will be less people in the world hence you don't have to get those losers jobs.

 

[trigg3r]

Ugh, I just watched ANOTHER episode of the Blackyardigans. "Yo, I'm Unique-wa..." I despises that show, but the girls love it. Between that and Strawberry Shortcake on "The Hub" (a whole 'nother rant, but seriously, The Hub has to be one of the worst stations I've ever come across. It is ALL about advertising and commercials targeting kids and stupid people alike -- really horrible), I want to die.

Agreed. I actually dug the pirate episode. That's about it. At least it isn't as bad as Caillou. That show makes me want to stick my head in an oven.

 

[TheDude]

C'mon... Calliou rocks!

" Hey Mr. Police Officer, would you like a juice box? I want to be a cop. Want an apple?"

 

[TroutBum]

C'mon... Calliou rocks!

" Hey Mr. Police Officer, would you like a juice box? I want to be a cop. Want an apple?"

^^

 

[JazzGal]

I had a minor outpatient procedure last week. The hospital bill is over $13,000, the doctor fee is $1,100, and I haven't yet seen the anesthesiologist bill and radiology bill. There is no reason that my minor procedure of 1.5 hours should cost as much as a car.

Of course my insurance company and I will not pay all of this, because they will cut a bunch of it off due to "contractual" negotiations. My question, why do they even bill for this much if this isn't what they will accept? Do they really charge people without insurance this much? The health care problem in this country will never be solved while such ridiculous pricing continues.

 

[Scat]

I had a minor outpatient procedure last week. The hospital bill is over $13,000, the doctor fee is $1,100, and I haven't yet seen the anesthesiologist bill and radiology bill. There is no reason that my minor procedure of 1.5 hours should cost as much as a car.

Of course my insurance company and I will not pay all of this, because they will cut a bunch of it off due to "contractual" negotiations. My question, why do they even bill for this much if this isn't what they will accept? Do they really charge people without insurance this much? The health care problem in this country will never be solved while such ridiculous pricing continues.

Let the free market and competition take over. Get Wal-Mart involved in surgeries. Prices will drop.

 

[TheSilencer1313]

Let the free market and competition take over. Get Wal-Mart involved in surgeries. Prices will drop.

Yeah, and then Wal-mart can undercut the vendors of surgery equipment as well.

 

[Stoked]

Ugh, I just watched ANOTHER episode of the Blackyardigans. "Yo, I'm Unique-wa..." I despises that show, but the girls love it. Between that and Strawberry Shortcake on "The Hub" (a whole 'nother rant, but seriously, The Hub has to be one of the worst stations I've ever come across. It is ALL about advertising and commercials targeting kids and stupid people alike -- really horrible), I want to die.

Trout my friend it has only just begun. The shows dont get any better. Total Random makes me want to cut out my eyes.

 

[TroutBum]

Trout my friend it has only just begun. The shows dont get any better. Total Random makes me want to cut out my eyes.

How can it get worse? I caught myself singing "The Wonder Pets!" song while I was cleaning my garage this weekend, except I was mixing and matching words to make it derogatory. I wish I was making this up. Micky is actually gay, The Little Einsteins aren't on anymore (the only good show my kids ever watched), and the Republican in me just can't stand Dora the Explorer or Handy Manny. WTF?! What happened to kids shows?

 

[TroutBum]

Trout my friend it has only just begun. The shows dont get any better. Total Random makes me want to cut out my eyes.

How can it get worse? I caught myself singing "The Wonder Pets!" song while I was cleaning my garage this weekend, except I was mixing and matching words to make it derogatory. I wish I was making this up. Micky is actually gay, The Little Einsteins aren't on anymore (the only good show my kids ever watched), and the Republican in me just can't stand Dora the Explorer or Handy Manny. WTF?! What happened to kids shows?

 

[LogGrad98]

Ah sexual orientation ambiguity in cartoons of the 80s. The good olds days.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Ugh, I just watched ANOTHER episode of the Blackyardigans. "Yo, I'm Unique-wa..." I despises that show, but the girls love it. Between that and Strawberry Shortcake on "The Hub" (a whole 'nother rant, but seriously, The Hub has to be one of the worst stations I've ever come across. It is ALL about advertising and commercials targeting kids and stupid people alike -- really horrible), I want to die.

So it looks like they hit their target demographic at least 3x (your girls and you).
Sorry, trout, you set yourself up for that one.


My girl LOVES the Backyardigans (still). I've enjoyed watching most of the other shows with her, through Little Bear, Blues Clues, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, Wonder Pets, etc. We have a running gag with Swiper from Dora. Always makes people smile at the food court or McDonald's when I pretend to reach across to take some of her fries and she slaps my hand and says, "Swiper, NO SWIPING!"

I'm just glad at 6 1/2 she still believes in Santa Claus and Peter Pan and Neverland. They grow up so fast...gone are the days of my Little Princess, when she wanted to dress up every day and watch Cinderella or The Little Mermaid.

And look on the bright side, Trout...at least we're not forced to watch the Smurfs, Barney or Teletubbies!