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Should the Jazz Trade Al Jefferson *poll*

Should the Jazz Trade Jefferson

  • Yes

    Votes: 94 88.7%

  • No

    Votes: 12 11.3%
  • Total voters
    106
Yes we will miss Big Al's points, but maybe this team improves with him gone. We are counting on Hayward and Burks to improve. Favors would start, and would need to give us steady production. Kanter would have take a leap forward as well.

It's a risk, but it's one we might have to make. We've got to take the gamble on these players, and not just play it safe with Big Al. He got his chance, and failed.
 
GoJazz said:
I can't imagine a championship team with a Power forward / Center that can't play the pick and roll. So trade Al Jeffersuck.
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....the question should be CAN the Jazz trade Jefferson? With what he makes...and what teams know about him.....I doubt it.
 
GoJazz said:
Harris could run an offense.
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I don`t think so. For a supposed point guard, Harris is easily one of the worst playmakers-distributors that i`ve seen.

It should be glaringly obvious to anyone who`s watched alot of basketball that Harris and Jefferson just have to go.

I can only pray KOC sees this as well.
 
If we trade Al, who replaces him? I remember the joy when Al replaces Booz as a Jazzman. Now we want him gone. I would love to upgrade at every position, inlcuding Al's, but trading Al in no ways means that will happen. Worst thing to happen to an NBA player is come to Utah and be something close to a 20 and 10 guy because the fans will hate you. And no I don't believe Kanter is even close to being ready.
 
vslice02 said:
Nothing short of redefining his offensive game would come close to negating his defensive liablity.
You can compare Al and Boozer as both are subpar defenders - but the difference between the two is Boozer's (when healthy) offensive game fit Utah's system like a glove. Boozer wasn't just a 20-point scorer, he could do it scoring individually or within the team-concept (pick&roll, high-post passing, hitting low-post cutters). Al is virtually a 1-dimensional player who scores the over-whelming majority of his points from a stationary spot on the left-side of the floor, can't score while on the move, doesn't play well in any type of 2-man game (we saw that last year w/Deron), and gets to the FT line at an alarmlingly low rate. So not only is he a complete defensive liability like Boozer, the stagnation you have on the offensive end prevents you from becoming an elite offensive team (which the Jazz were from 2006-10) to counter the easy baskets you're giving up.

The tipping point for me is, as effective as Millsap was behind Boozer - Sap still had many of the same limitations in terms of size and offensively at the time couldn't do many of the things as well as Boozer did, so it wasn't like we had an ideal replacement where shipping Boozer off made perfect sense.
Right now behind Jefferson, we have a 20-year old in Favors who can defend the rim, can play pick&roll basketball and can get to the FT line just by playing a primitive "I'm going right to the rim and trying to score" skillset. It's not just getting rid of what you term your "problems" are, it's fixing them, and Favors is someone who can fix alot of what the Jazz are lacking inside.
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I hope gm's of other teams aren't reading this. LOL...
freakazoid said:
I was hoping for KOC to trade AL at the deadline, but I really wanted to buy into the rebuilding while remaining relevant hype. I think my definition of relevant is quite a bit different from a lot of people here. Anyway, I'd like to say I have complete confidence in KOC to do what needs to be done in the offseason, but to be completely honest, I have my doubts as to whether or not our FO is truly committed to building a contender, or if they'll just be content to play it safe. To me, this season should have been the exception to the rule, in that it should have been a rebuilding season from the very start. KOC has done some great things to get us to where we are now, but one or two missteps, and it could negate much of what he's done right.

I've still got high hopes for some cards to fall our way, but I'm definately concerned that our FO may choose to play it safe, and go into next season with the same basic team we have now.
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I've said it all year, the best time to trade Al is the off season, because you will get more, plus now we have a way to get back into the first round of the draft.
Wes Mantooth said:
Favors went to the line 12 times in game four. Jefferson went to the line four times in the whole series.
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did he go to the line 12 times or did he shoot 12 foul shots?
KOC BEGONE said:
Or negative rep him for the list of losers he sticks up for
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you have been neg reped
 
gomretat said:
I remember the joy when Al replaces Booz as a Jazzman.
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I remember thinking that was very naive of those that felt that way. I don't now, but that's because I've been pretty consistent on my feelings regarding Al, before and during his tenure here (shiny junk).
 
Considering what this team needs and thinking logically, if we're going to move Al, I think the best option is to send him to Detroit for Ben Gordon plus the #9 pick.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Yes we will miss Big Al's points, but maybe this team improves with him gone. We are counting on Hayward and Burks to improve. Favors would start, and would need to give us steady production. Kanter would have take a leap forward as well.

It's a risk, but it's one we might have to make. We've got to take the gamble on these players, and not just play it safe with Big Al. He got his chance, and failed.
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Yeah, it's a pretty scary thought when you look at our half-court offense during stretches this series when Al was off the floor. I think without him our team will be forced to play more team oriented motion offense, a lot of players seemed to rely on him too much.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, it's a pretty scary thought when you look at our half-court offense during stretches this series when Al was off the floor. I think without him our team will be forced to play more team oriented motion offense, a lot of players seemed to rely on him too much.
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Not sure if they were relying on him or making the assumption that movement was a waste of energy once Al got the ball. I enjoyed watching the Jazz much more when Al wasn't in the game, period.
 
If the Hornets land the 1st overall pick, I wonder if they would be willing to trade the Timberwolves pick for Big Al.

Big Al + Davis would be a good front-court pairing. I think they would still be able to retain Eric Gordon. I don't know how the trade would workout since they don't really have much contracts that can match Jefferson other than Okafor (rather not take that contract back, though he is a good defensive player and would expire the same time Favors and Hayward are up for new contracts).

If we did make it to where we swapped Okafor and Jefferson, I would want to do it before the order has been set, so we can still retain a sliver of hope the 10th pick jump in the top 3.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, it's a pretty scary thought when you look at our half-court offense during stretches this series when Al was off the floor. I think without him our team will be forced to play more team oriented motion offense, a lot of players seemed to rely on him too much.
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I think that this is more inline with what we saw when Al missed the few games that he did. More people involved, and the ball movement seemed much better. More guys stepping up. Myself, I would much rather see this, than the just throw it into Al, and everyone stand around and watch offense that we use the majority of the time with Al in the game.
I think that really in the long run, the Jazz will be a much better team than we are now with out Al around.
 
midnight_hwy said:
I think that this is more inline with what we saw when Al missed the few games that he did. More people involved, and the ball movement seemed much better. More guys stepping up. Myself, I would much rather see this, than the just throw it into Al, and everyone stand around and watch offense that we use the majority of the time with Al in the game.
I think that really in the long run, the Jazz will be a much better team than we are now with out Al around.
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I think so too, but I won't be surprised if we aren't as good next year as we were this year. Down the line I think we are much better.
 
If the jazz don't get 2 mid first round picks, an early Second round pick and a young player to take on Kanter's 4th big role then trading for Al was a net loss.
 
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