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Should the NBA abolish the 3 point line?
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Hedda Gambler
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I just don`t understand why people are nostalgic about players like Derrick Favors spotting up from mid-range.
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Who said that? They should delete their account. Please post a link to that post so we can heap the requisite ridicule on that idiot.
Absolutely, I hate the way the league is discussed. It's all about big picture stuff/what's next. And it never ends. It's not like all of this talk leads to a thrilling conclusion, once someone wins it's talked about for 5 minutes and then back to big picture.
It's like the media goes out of it's way to tell you how unimportant the game you're watching is. On any given Sunday, the most important thing concerning an NFL team is who is going to win that game. In the NBA, the game is rendered meaningless to all the extracurricular stuff. The NBA is about gossip, not about basketball. The day to day competition is the least important thing these days.
Well I love Big D, what a great power player i go weak at the knees for Big D but Im not really talking about him. But lets enjoy a bit anyway
go get it big fella!!!!
But lets look at todays game, everyone is playing the same way, big men are basically trying to play like guards, theres not much differentiation. Watch the legends of the past, there is a real beauty and skill to the way they play, its missing from todays game.
You know you can watch Olajuwon, Ewing, O'Neal, Robinson and so many more. The power, the positioning, the touch. The contest should be more than shooting threes and catching lobs.
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cctrackstar
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yes. the advantage to the '3' type shot should be better spacing in the paint, not more actual points. the shot would still go further out to, again, get better spacing but it wouldn't be worshipped by teams like it is now. also, if the line is gone, you never know where they would shoot from which would encourage a more varied number of unique locations.
Tremendous Upside
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Huh? It leads to better spacing because it's worth 3 points and is a very makeable shot.
Watch some old games without the 3pt arc. All the action is taking place within the area that is now inside the perimeter. All 10 guys are crammed in there.
That would never work with modern players. Too big, too mobile, too athletic. Spacing is the lifeblood of the NBA.
I don't really have a problem with how the game is being played these days, but if you have to tweak something, make the whole court bigger to correspond to the increased size and speed of the players and also pull the 3pt line out considerably. Make it a very tough shot, but still a part of the game. At some point the league average accuracy would come down to the extent that the "midrange” shot would start to make more sense again for most players.
The goal would be to really make the defense decide if they're gonna go out to guard those long range shooters. You couldn't just stay in no-man's land like today because there would be too much ground to cover.
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I think one way to reduce the amount of 3s would be to change some rules on screening / how defenders are allowed to defend through screens.
E.g. making off ball screens illegal outside the arc would eliminate a bunch of actions teams run on the perimeter to set up 3 pointers.
Or set a rule where defender is allowed to step in front of the ball carrier if a player screen forces the path of the defender (similar to defenders establishing themselves between the ball carrier and the basket). That could be kinda complex to interpret though.
E.g. making off ball screens illegal outside the arc would eliminate a bunch of actions teams run on the perimeter to set up 3 pointers.
Or set a rule where defender is allowed to step in front of the ball carrier if a player screen forces the path of the defender (similar to defenders establishing themselves between the ball carrier and the basket). That could be kinda complex to interpret though.
Miggs
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Except two things will occur by pushing the line back say two feet. One, three point percentage will come down. This lessens the analytical value of the shot which is a good thing imo. Two, it will open up spacing, for low post guys now of all, to operate which I think is a good thing.
If I’m the league, I push the line back two feet and consider widening the court about one foot as well.
Miggs
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You’ll lose one row on both sides and ends…so what? 1% of all the seats? Raise ticket prices 1% if they’re that concerned about it.
I've been saying that the court needs to be widened and that the 3pt line moved back for almost a decade. It's painfully obvious. There is — and there always will be — a threshold beyond which the analytics that support volume 3-point shooting will tip back in favor of more 2s / fewer 3s. And league offenses will adjust accordingly. Analytics aren't going anywhere. The league needs to check-in with that threshold. What's the 3-point line distance? And they need to set future dates in their calendar to assess whether the line needs further adjustment.
This kind of approach is actually the full promise of the analytical era, not some move away from analytics.
This kind of approach is actually the full promise of the analytical era, not some move away from analytics.
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Thats what I would think, but any discussion I've heard about it makes it seem like it's not that simple
cctrackstar
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that's the point. because they would get in each other's way they would be forced to expand their shot in spite of it not being worth more points. too crowded in the paint? shoot from further out. and again, you would never know where that shot would come from because there wouldn't be a set 'line' that they put their toes a centimeter behind. i think it would be very interesting to watch how it developed.
Miggs
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Outside of the on court product itself, I think a huge issue for the league is that’s older stars like Lebron, Durant and Curry are on their way out. Simultaneously, the new crop of best players is predominantly foreign. Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Doncic, and Shai. They’re just not as marketable, within domestic borders at least, as they don’t have the appeal toward which the urban youth gravitate. The players mentioned have thick accents, or don’t have the look or personality needed to carry the sport, or frankly don’t care to. A lack of a current dynasty also hurts.
The league could badly use an Ant-Man title run vs the Celts with a TWolves win. It won’t happen though.
The league could badly use an Ant-Man title run vs the Celts with a TWolves win. It won’t happen though.
Douchebag K
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Yeah, I think if you basically studied the reasons why people hate Harden and Trae’s games and made rules accordingly that that would make a whole world of difference.
The easiest thing there would be calling obvious travels. Even going so far as to wipe away shots on review without interrupting the flow of the game. Those 5 step shuffles that become memes need to be snuffed out (with extreme prejudice, even); they are a literal mockery of the game.