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Should the NBA Change Foul Limit Rules?

If you really wanted to add a foul the 6th foul should carry a big penalty if you leave the player in the game. Like 2 additional free throws... 7th foul the same thing. They should only allow you to keep one player in beyond 6 fouls too.
 
Foul limits don't need to be changed - what does need to be changed is the fact that defenders can't body anyone up now without the shooter turning up and throwing a wild shot at the rim to draw a shooting foul.

Last night's game was excruciating to watch - a three hour foul-fest with too many FTA that simply kills any game flow.

Compounding this is Quin won't challenge anything and some of the fouls were ghost fouls where Morant wasn't even touched.
 
Foul limits don't need to be changed - what does need to be changed is the fact that defenders can't body anyone up now without the shooter turning up and throwing a wild shot at the rim to draw a shooting foul.

Last night's game was excruciating to watch - a three hour foul-fest with too many FTA that simply kills any game flow.

Compounding this is Quin won't challenge anything and some of the fouls were ghost fouls where Morant wasn't even touched.
I'm actually fine with how the game was reffed last night. They were consistent at least. I would prefer they allow more contact and be consistent that way but the wildly inconsistent Game 1 murdered us. Several 50/50 fouls and all seemed to go against us. The early foul trouble from the Grizz were all on pretty obvious fouls.

The only really cringy fouls I thought were the one with Rudy on Ja that was an obvious challenge candidate and Quin preferred to thumb his ******* rather than challenge it. The other foul was the one where JJJ just traveled and fell to the ground and it was called a foul. I at least understood that one because it may have looked like he was pushed.
 
I would love for the NBA to legislate out the Euro foul. I know we are likely the biggest offender... I hate it so much. Feels like 25% of the time we botch it anyway.

Do something to penalize flopping... either scout those players and treat them like the boy that cried wolf or have real on court penalties for flopping.

I don't think they need to increase the foul limit... I think it is counter productive.
 
disagree... they called it super tight but were consistent. Game 1 they allowed Brooks to commit several crimes against humanity but then called touch fouls on Mike.

The Rudy JV thing is a problem. You can literally call a foul on almost every play. The refs get to use their "judgement" and one player is likely disadvantaged each play.

There are a few small tweaks to the rules I would make and the biggest change I would have is I would penalize flopping and exaggerating contact. So much energy is used to trick officials or draw calls because it is rewarded handsomely.
Happy to disagree. They were allowing absolute mugging on one play and then touch fouls the next. Happened the entire game. Very poorly officiated.
 
I would love for the NBA to legislate out the Euro foul. I know we are likely the biggest offender... I hate it so much. Feels like 25% of the time we botch it anyway.

Do something to penalize flopping... either scout those players and treat them like the boy that cried wolf or have real on court penalties for flopping.

I don't think they need to increase the foul limit... I think it is counter productive.
I think that is the solution. Send a memo that the league will be watching tape, and players that consistently flop or offensive players that cause unnatural offensive contact will be watched, and the benefit of the doubt will start going to the defender for those players.

I also think as part of a challenge, if it is determined that a player clearly flopped which led the officials to an incorrect call, it should be two shots and the ball for the defending team and a personal foul for the offender. This would make the challenge (which is neutered for many situations due to leading to a jump ball) more effective.
 
Review each game and hold refs accountable. Bonus for well called games, fines and eventual dismissal for poorly called ones.
There wouldn’t be any refs left in a month or two. What you do is shine a light and make them available to reporters after games so they can answer questions as to why they called or didn’t call certain calls. This would make them take their jobs a little more seriously maybe add a re in some booth that can overturn calls or point out missed calls. I think the way it is is part of the game of strategy and keeps teams sharp.
 
I agree with punishing the flopping. Just whistle a foul on a player who is acting when nothing happened.
Secondly just get consistent whoever plays. It's idiotic that you have to "earn the whistle". Both the rookie and the star should be treated the same. With current rules, protecting the landing space etc there is no need to treat the stars differently. What fun it is to make game easier for someone who is already great at it?
 
Would it though? It's not like stars could rack up free fouls. If a star is going into the 4th quarter with 5 or more fouls, they are still walking on egg shells, but not to the extent they are now.
Yes, it definitely would. If they combined this with a rule that made flagrant foulss even more likely to be called, I can them balancing each other out.

The whole point of something being a foul is that the committer is breaking a basketball rule. I don't think we need to see more permission to break the rules than we already have.
 
It's been a huge bummer watching the first two games and seeing how much influence the refs have had with handing star/important players early foul trouble.

Game 1 was decided by Gobert/Conley getting in foul trouble and Game 2 was heavily influenced by Jonas/Brooks having early foul trouble,

So my proposal would be: Instead of fouling out, when a player gets their 6th foul, they have to sit for a certain number of game time minutes.

So on the 6th foul a player has to sit for two minutes of game time, on the 7th three minutes, and so on and so forth.

The main point would be to eliminate the impact of early foul trouble so coaches wouldn't be so scared to play their best players. There are still major consequences if a guy has heavy foul trouble late in a game (like if you get your 7th foul in the final 5 minutes, you are out for over half the remaining time), but it isn't as devastating as losing a player completely.

I know people hate change so this will probably be railed, but any would like this idea or have an alternatives ideas?
I think you have to make the penalty for the 6th, 7th fouls more then just sitting. Guy needs a rest and they have no time outs so the player fouls. I think beside sitting the 6th foul results in the offense team shooting free throws and getting the ball out. Like a flagrant foul type of a situation. I also think there needs to be a limit. Guys cannot get 10 fouls that would muck up the game. This probably would not happen if the penalty for getting more than 6 fouls was severe enough to diminish players just hacking away.
 
I think you have to make the penalty for the 6th, 7th fouls more then just sitting. Guy needs a rest and they have no time outs so the player fouls. I think beside sitting the 6th foul results in the offense team shooting free throws and getting the ball out. Like a flagrant foul type of a situation. I also think there needs to be a limit. Guys cannot get 10 fouls that would muck up the game. This probably would not happen if the penalty for getting more than 6 fouls was severe enough to diminish players just hacking away.
Uhh, if a guy was getting 10 fouls in a game he would be sitting out for a total combined game time of 24 minutes. He'd also put his team severely in the penalty.
 
Never liked the idea of players fouling out
Does not seem fair to lose your best players
You watch a great game and then someone loses their best player and chances are that team loses
No more fouling out or even penalty minutes like hockey
Hockey has ways to overcome one or even two man down minutes
Not sure what to do but maybe like someone suggested more free throws and lose possession after six
 
The only really cringy fouls I thought were the one with Rudy on Ja that was an obvious challenge candidate and Quin preferred to thumb his ******* rather than challenge it. The other foul was the one where JJJ just traveled and fell to the ground and it was called a foul. I at least understood that one because it may have looked like he was pushed.
The fifth foul on Brooks (which didn't have that much impact, he kept playing IIRC and he didn't foul out) was really ticky-tack, they should've let that go IMO. I can't believe they challenged his assault on Joe, though. That was the most obvious foul of them all.
 
The NBA already has this(ish) rule if you are down to 5 healthy players. I believe there's a T for each foul on a player who would otherwise foul out.

Don't know how it is in FIBA now, and how it is in non-NBA US ball, but back in my days playing in Norway, you lost the game if you had only one remaining player, but you could foul out guys so you were shorthanded (I remember playing 2 on 5 for several minutes).
 
I think that is the solution. Send a memo that the league will be watching tape, and players that consistently flop or offensive players that cause unnatural offensive contact will be watched, and the benefit of the doubt will start going to the defender for those players.

I also think as part of a challenge, if it is determined that a player clearly flopped which led the officials to an incorrect call, it should be two shots and the ball for the defending team and a personal foul for the offender. This would make the challenge (which is neutered for many situations due to leading to a jump ball) more effective.
The entire reason the league abandoned the crack-down on flopping was because it revealed how often the biggest stars use it to get calls and they realized they would more often than not be punishing a star player. Cannot mess with the bread and butter so they basically just abandoned that movement. Imagine how LeBron would be affected if they actually went after the floppers. No way the league is suspending him for multiple games, they will take too big a hit to the bottom line.
 
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