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Should we match Wesley Matthews offer sheet?

Would you match the offer sheet to Wesley Matthews?

  • **** NO!

    Votes: 59 85.5%

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 14.5%
  • Total voters
    69
calijazz said:
Can't sign-and-trade Wes because he's already signed the offer sheet with the Blazers and the Jazz don't have bird years to be able to do that regardless.
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I'm sure you're right. But maybe they'd be open to a Koufos/Fernandez swap. I doubt it, but if I was KOC I'd throw that at the wall and see if it stuck. If Portland is dumb enough to sign Wes to that deal, who knows what other dumb stuff they're capable of.
 
Yeah, the Blazers think the Jazz FO are really dumb. But c'mon, they can't be THAT DUMB! (they better not be)

Blazers gotta be nervous the Jazz don't match. Like you pointed out - what "dream" do they have exactly? Draft Babbitt behind all-star Roy and disgruntled Fernandez, not to mention the rest of the backcourt and then offer Wes Matthews that toxic contract?? They totally want Jazz to match and screw themselves. That's their dream. DON'T MAKE THEIR DREAM COME TRUE.

Their nightmare is Jazz don't match.

This is awesome. (as long as Jazz say g'bye to Wes)
 
For me, this is a tough one. The Jazz have a week to consider, but emotions aside, the only real question should be whether the Jazz can get just as good a player for less.

That said, it's tempting to "cut off your nose to spite your face," i.e., make Portland eat this deal (which they don't really even want) if for no other reason than to discourage them from messin with our RFA's year-in, year-out, even if you hurt yourself in the process.

I place an extremely high value on Matthews. Not because of his physical skillz (although they are considerable) but because he also seems to be an intelligent leader-type that has that toughness, competitiveness, and work ethic that is hard to find these days (Brewer and Miles sure don't seem to have it).
 
billyshelby said:
I'm sure you're right. But maybe they'd be open to a Koufos/Fernandez swap. I doubt it, but if I was KOC I'd throw that at the wall and see if it stuck. If Portland is dumb enough to sign Wes to that deal, who knows what other dumb stuff they're capable of.
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Considering their concerted efforts to screw us the last 2 offseasons, I don't see them giving anything of value to the Jazz. Fernandez would be a nice though...although rumors have it he wants to go back to Europe.
 
Where is the "*****YES!" option !!?

The Jazz needs to match in my opinion, it's a no brianer as far as i'm concern. Wesley has become our best defender in only a few months. He is very young, very though and you have to keep him no matter what.

The mistake here is allowing him to receive such offers. KOC should have known that portland would be able to make such an offer especially after the reports saying that they were interested in Matthews. They should have offered Matthews a good offer on the first day and thus signing him before Portland was making that toxic offer.

After letting Korver go i can't see the Jazz not matching this offer. That would be the worst offseason in years. And id we get back Ronnie Brewer that would top it off. A guy that even the Grizzlies don't want to keep, are you serious !?
 
Here are some current salaries; some averaged over a few years.
Artest - ~$7M over next 4
Andre Miller ~7
Greg Oden 6, 8M
Beno Udri ~7
Francisco Garcia 6
OJ Mayo 5-7
Devin Harris ~9
Kapono 6
Andres Nococini ~7

Daniel Gibson 4+
Jaxon Maxiell 5
Reggie Evans 5
Jarret Jack 5
Marcus Banks 5
John Salmons (8/yr i think)
Jameer Nelson ~7
JR Smith 6
James Posey ~6.5
L Barbosa 7



Ramon Sessions 4
Charlie Bell 4
Rudy Fernandez ~2-3
Jared Bayless 3-4
Kirk Hinrich 8-9
Steven Jackson 8,9,10
 
I think Portland is just trying to collect assets. If the Jazz think Matthews is going to have that kind of market value longer term, they should keep him, even if just to trade him along with a TPE.

I voted yes. Portland is demonstrating that Matthews has significant market value even on a team that has two SGs and drafted a combo guard in Elliot Williams.
 
I don't buy the "screw the Jazz" motivation for Matthews. They just have more money and aren't afraid to spend. Hell look at Outlaw... is Wes better or worse or the same as him? He got 5y/35M
 
Hopper said:
For me, this is a tough one. The Jazz have a week to consider, but emotions aside, the only real question should be whether the Jazz can get just as good a player for less.
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No, the only question is whether Matthews is an asset that's worth the price. If he is, you keep him, either to play him or to trade him. You don't let him go for nothing. You only let him go if he's a bad contract.

I'd go ahead and keep him. He's young and improving. Arguably, he's already playing at a Raja Bell level. So what if the contract is front loaded. Look at the value of the contract longer term.
 
Catchall said:
If the Jazz think Matthews is going to have that kind of market value longer term, they should keep him, even if just to trade him along with a TPE. I voted yes. Portland is demonstrating that Matthews has significant market value even on a team that has two SGs and drafted a combo guard in Elliot Williams.
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Good point, and that's sumthin to consider. Because of the peculiarities of the CBA this is the MOST money Matthews can get right now, even if he were worth twice that much.
 
Catchall said:
I voted yes. Portland is demonstrating that Matthews has significant market value even on a team that has two SGs and drafted a combo guard in Elliot Williams.
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This part is debatable. I don't take Portland's offer to be indicative of "market value" under the circumstances. It could be, but not simply "because it was offered." Portland has ulterior reasons, unrelated to "market value," for makin this kinda offer to Matthews.
 
Here's what I'd do. I'd call around the league and ask other GMs if they would want us to sign and trade them Matthews. What would we get in return? Lets see what his real market value is and decide how overpriced he is.

I think Portland wants to sign Matthews to trade him along with another one of their younger players. I can't imagine they'd pay that much for a back-up to Roy. How is he going to get on the court for more than 15 minutes? Portland sees this as an opportunity to pick up an asset and add value to their team without losing anyone. It's more player equity.
 
Matthews is nowhere near worth that contract. Again, this comes down to two things when you spend MLE money: A) What can the player reasonably be expected to produce or B) what is his upside? The answer to A is nobody knows. One year of data. MLE guys normally have 5 years of data. The answer to B is not much. No matter how great Wes' intangibles are, he's a poor athlete by NBA standards, and small. If you can't predict how a player will continue to play, and he already has limited upside, you don't pay 7 million averaged per season. There is absolutely nothing to think about with this. It's like splitting 7's when you're hot at the table. It could work. Usually doesn't. And if you haven't been drinking heavily, you walk away.
 
Catchall said:
Here's what I'd do. I'd call around the league and ask other GMs if they would want us to sign and trade them Matthews. What would we get in return? Lets see what his real market value is and decide how overpriced he is.

I think Portland wants to sign Matthews to trade him along with another one of their younger players. I can't imagine they'd pay that much for a back-up to Roy. How is he going to get on the court for more than 15 minutes? Portland sees this as an opportunity to pick up an asset and add value to their team without losing anyone. It's more player equity.
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I am not sure another team wants to shell out that kind of money to Matthews. I really think this is just a calculated move by Portland to hamper our finances down the road. I believe they think we lost Boozer and Korver, so now we have to re-sign Matthews. Let him go and watch the eggs drip off of their faces when they are paying a backup that kind of cash.
 
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