So what's wrong with polygamy (polyamory)?

[Revolution 9]

Why is so much time and money wasted worrying about adults committing to each other?

Just because you agree to allow someone else these rights, doesn't mean you have to personally agree with their choice.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Hardly any actual, consenting adult would want to do this, but if they want to, then whatever. That's the trick, though. Inherent to polygamist society is an extreme lack of consent or adulthood. That is all that really concerns me, and it's hard to say whether you could totally separate the culture of polygamy from the isolated, consenting practice of it. I'm skeptical it could be done.

 

[colton]

Why is so much time and money wasted worrying about adults committing to each other?

Just because you agree to allow someone else these rights, doesn't mean you have to personally agree with their choice.

Serious question: how do you feel about incest between adults? I.e., if a father & grown daughter, or a brother & sister, wanted to get married. Are you OK with that? Should it be legal? (Let's assume they take steps to prevent children due to potential birth defects.)

 

[Archie Moses]

How the heck can one man support 50 kids?

 

[The Thriller]

Why is so much time and money wasted worrying about adults committing to each other?

Just because you agree to allow someone else these rights, doesn't mean you have to personally agree with their choice.

I think a lot of it has to do with taxes and government benefits.

 

[JohnStockalypse]

If legalized, I'd also like to see a cap on how many dependants polygamist's could claim on their taxes. If that's the lifestyle you choose, that's fine, just don't expect the American taxpayers to pay for it.

But it's OK to make the American taxpayers pay for the choices of EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON dependent on the welfare system? Why the distinction?

 

[bat]

I'd rather have polygamy marriages rather than gay marriages.
but thats just me.

MAN AND MAN SHOULD NOT GET MARRIED.
woman and woman should get NOT married


marriage is between a man and a woman. simple as that.

if gays want something like marriage they should use another word for it maybe "gayrriage" or "sickness" or whatever they wanna call it. screw gay marriages.

not that i have anything against gays

Wow. That was awful.

As far as Polygamy goes, it doesn't really matter all that much to me. If adults are fine living in those types of situations more power to them, doesn't have any affect on me. I know a kid who came from a polygamist family and he's fine. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

The people I actually see having a problem with this would be insurance type companies that offer benefits to the spouses of those covered through work etc.

But I guess Obamacare would probably work out a bunch of those problems.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

But it's OK to make the American taxpayers pay for the choices of EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON dependent on the welfare system? Why the distinction?

I actually believe that there should be a cap on how many dependants you claim on your taxes. If you want to go out and have 7 kids, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, from a tax stand point it seems awful to me that the person claiming 7 kids is getting thousands more in tax breaks than say the person who's claiming 2 kids. Most likely the guy with 7 kids is either paying a reduced school lunch fee or none at all, reduced school registration fees or none at all and so on. Meanwhile, the family with two kids are paying full price for everything. It's almost as if we punish Americans who don't overpopulate.

It seems wrong that the people who have the most children and put more burdens on the school system, etc. are also the same people who rake in cash windfalls at tax time each year. They get rewarded at both ends of the spectrum while the average Joe with the average size family goes through life paying full cost for everything.

 

[AlaskanAssassin]

Black people make up 40% of all welfare recipients. Should we stop letting them get married?

 

[DutchJazzer]

My vote is for getting government entirely outta the business of regulating everything. This requires an expansion of human freedom, not another ton of legislation to be administered by the State. You folks should all negotiate your own contracts and relations. And hire your own lawyers to defend your own rights under the terms of your contracts.

yeah ANARCHY. i like anarchy

 

[DutchJazzer]

They are sick and wrong and screw them but.....

Yeah sounds like you are totally cool with gay folks.

jsut saying i'm tired of this gene/disease excuse goes with addiction and sexual orientation.

i just think all that stuff is a choice.
just society inventing diseas/genes exucse for peoples choice.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Serious question: how do you feel about incest between adults? I.e., if a father & grown daughter, or a brother & sister, wanted to get married. Are you OK with that? Should it be legal? (Let's assume they take steps to prevent children due to potential birth defects.)

why shouldn't it be.
if they both want to do it why not. isnt it their genetic makeup or is it a choice? if gayness isnt a choice neither is that. just saying if you allow gay marriage you should also allow this

 

[Scat]

why shouldn't it be.
if they both want to do it why not. isnt it their genetic makeup or is it a choice? if gayness isnt a choice neither is that. just saying if you allow gay marriage you should also allow this

Because that is just sick and wrong. Wanting your male friend's member is OK but wanting your sister is just flat out wrong.

 

[Nate505]

I'd rather have polygamy marriages rather than gay marriages.
but thats just me.

MAN AND MAN SHOULD NOT GET MARRIED.
woman and woman should get NOT married


marriage is between a man and a woman. simple as that.

if gays want something like marriage they should use another word for it maybe "gayrriage" or "sickness" or whatever they wanna call it. screw gay marriages.

not that i have anything against gays

Yeah, of course, how could anyone think you have something against gays.

 

[Nate505]

Serious question: how do you feel about incest between adults? I.e., if a father & grown daughter, or a brother & sister, wanted to get married. Are you OK with that? Should it be legal? (Let's assume they take steps to prevent children due to potential birth defects.)

Am I ok with it? I'd think it's creepy and gross. Should it be legal? Sure, doesn't harm me.

I think a lot of stuff should be (and is) legal that I don't necessarily agree with or would ever do.

 

[One Brow]

As far as group marriage goes, anyone who claims to be a traditionalist or use the Bible as a moral guide should be in favor of them. Plural marriages have a much longer, deeper tradition in every civilization than two-person marriages. However, I expect this will not hold true, because most traditionalists only hold to the traditions that they like.

Serious question: how do you feel about incest between adults? I.e., if a father & grown daughter, or a brother & sister, wanted to get married. Are you OK with that? Should it be legal? (Let's assume they take steps to prevent children due to potential birth defects.)

My sister and I have been adults for over 30 years, but our relationship is still defined in many ways by the unequal balance of power that existed when we were children. There may be adult siblings who are not so affected (for example, rasied apart), but I think my experience is more typical in that regard. If marriage is supposed to reflect a union of equals making a commitment to each other, than I think that's not really possible for most sets of siblings, and much less so for parent-child, uncle-niece, aunt-nephew, etc.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

Serious question: how do you feel about incest between adults? I.e., if a father & grown daughter, or a brother & sister, wanted to get married. Are you OK with that? Should it be legal? (Let's assume they take steps to prevent children due to potential birth defects.)

Are you a Morgan Freeman fan by chance?

Edit: That's his step-granddaughter. It's all gooood.

 

[colton]

I actually believe that there should be a cap on how many dependants you claim on your taxes. If you want to go out and have 7 kids, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. However, from a tax stand point it seems awful to me that the person claiming 7 kids is getting thousands more in tax breaks than say the person who's claiming 2 kids. Most likely the guy with 7 kids is either paying a reduced school lunch fee or none at all, reduced school registration fees or none at all and so on. Meanwhile, the family with two kids are paying full price for everything. It's almost as if we punish Americans who don't overpopulate.

It seems wrong that the people who have the most children and put more burdens on the school system, etc. are also the same people who rake in cash windfalls at tax time each year. They get rewarded at both ends of the spectrum while the average Joe with the average size family goes through life paying full cost for everything.

At least two problems with your logic:

1) The kids, once grown, are going to contribute 7x as many taxes (and as much productivity, etc) as the only child would. You are completely not factoring that into your equation.

2) If the kids really do need reduced or free school lunches, and you deprive them of that--it's not the parents who will suffer the most, it is the kids.

 

[colton]

Are you a Morgan Freeman fan by chance?

Edit: That's his step-granddaughter. It's all gooood.

No, didn't know about that. I do like Morgan Freeman as an actor, but have no idea about what he's like as a person.

Come to think of it, didn't Woody Allen also marry his step-daughter? Conversely, I'm really not much of a fan of his acting (or directing).

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

At least two problems with your logic:

1) The kids, once grown, are going to contribute 7x as many taxes (and as much productivity, etc) as the only child would. You are completely not factoring that into your equation.

2) If the kids really do need reduced or free school lunches, and you deprive them of that--it's not the parents who will suffer the most, it is the kids.

As far as the kids going on to contribute 7x as many taxes, you're being extremely liberal with that. Yes, in some cases that may be what happens, but that doesn't mean it will be the rule in most cases. Most kids from large families usually tend to have large families themselves. So what you have is 7 kids growing up and having a similar number of children and the pattern of tax loopholes continue. It's not a reach to see how that cycle repeats itself. Most large families are born out of religious idealism. Those ideals are obviously going to be passed down to the children leaving the nest.

As far as the free school lunches, I never said that the children should be deprived. I just think the parents should be expected to handle more of the responsibility. Obviously, that's never going to happen.