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Somebody explain Derrick Williams love to a Jazz Fan

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oldtimer

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I know Derrick Williams had an amazing year shooting percentage wise, but why do the jazz want a tweener?

D-Will2.0 is allegedly 6-8 and played power forward in college. Most of his highlights are dunks which mean very little in the NBA when your being guarded by 7 foot athletic studs. We had Boozer and we have Paul who are both undersized tweeners. They proved that tweeners cannot win playoff games against teams with two bigs.

Is everyone convinced that D-Will2.0 can play SF for the Jazz? I'm hoping Minnesota takes D-Will2.0 and leaves us Kanter. If Minnesota takes Kanter I'd probably take Knight instead of D-Will2.0. Can someone please explain why the jazz should take Williams?
 
You do realize that everyone in the draft is wondering if Williams can play the 3. Every work out he goes through is going to be built around if he can play the 3. If it doesn't look like he well excel at the 3 the I see Williams falling in this draft. But if he can play the 3 at 6-8 with is athletic ability and shooting range (over 50% last year in collage) then he could be the best player in the draft. Plus still giving teams the ability to play him at the 4. If his prime position is the 3 and he can excel at it then I would take him #1. If not then give me Kanter, or maybe even Knight
 
Because Williams is an explosive, fantastically gifted power sf, like Carmello or Paul Pierce, who could be a go-to scorer.
 
Since oldtimer doesn't like Williams, we have to get him now. I just hope he doesn't like ANY of the draft picks the Jazz make. We'd be in trouble at that point.
 
Darkwing Duck said:
Since oldtimer doesn't like Williams, we have to get him now. I just hope he doesn't like ANY of the draft picks the Jazz make. We'd be in trouble at that point.
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Very valid point. Rep'd for being correct. After the Bashing from the last pick that oldtimer did we definitely need to go against what ever direction he is taking :)
 
He is an exciting player that could possibly fill a need if he test out in the combine as being able to play SF. He is fearless and has heart. He is a player who gets better when the stage is bigger.
 
Kind of remind me of Lamar Odom a bit as well. I definitely can see him as a 3. Great dribble drive moves. Very Fluid. Great shooting ability- improved his shooting percentages from Fresh to Soph dramatically.

Only thing i wish he did better like Odom was passing ability, he's been described as a bit of black hole. His assists are really low.
 
DX did a pretty good job in picking his best case scenario. Michael Beasley with intangibles/no attitude.
 
I DON'T HATE WILLIAMS. I don't really like tweeners. If he can really play small forward then great.

As for last year, I did like Sanders and I also like Paul George. Funny how nobody ever gives me credit for that. I will say the worst part about last year was the game where Hayward really struggled in the first half and I ripped him good only to have him score 20 or so points in the second half. I took a beating on this board.
 
sepanol said:
can williams really dribble?
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He's not going to handle it like a LeBron or Durant but if you close-out on him can definitely put it on the deck. The big question I have with him is how well can he defend on the perimeter? Can he chase guys around screens? That said - in this draft the things he does well significantly outweigh the things he may struggle with.

Hear some David West comparisons - another guy I might compare him to is a young Larry Johnson - although DWill is a little bigger (I hope) and a better perimeter shooter at this stage in their careers.
 
I try to read this board every day and it seems to me there is great number of people who want to trade Paul Millsap because he is too small to play power forward and not yet fast enough play small forward. I believe the Millsap of today=Derrick Williams. Derrick Williams is going to try to convert from being a 4 to 3. That scares me. Maybe he is successful, maybe not. I really prefer Kanter. I hope he makes it past Minnesota.
 
my roommate is an arizona alum so I watched the Wildcats play over thirty times in teh last two years.

And this guy is just can't miss. Worst case scenario, we're talking a better version of Beasley. Best case scenario is Paul Pierce.

Williams actually reminds me a lot of Pierce, because they both kinda played a lot of power forward in college. And they both have really great body control.

Williams has an incredible first step, and his ball handling skills show potential even though they need work. His jumpshot has a slow release, but its very accurate. And this is something he added to his game over the summer.

The really impressive thing about Williams is that he's an incredibly hard worker. I've never seen a college basketball player improve like that in two years. He played a good portion of last season with a brace over his strong hand, and during that time he showed off his ability to do things with his off hand.

He's a competitor and a hard worker and his teammates love him. It's somewhat rare to see all three at the college level.

Also, the comparison to millsap is very superficial. There's a reason Williams is going top three and Millsap went in the second round. Derrick Williams is much much quicker and more explosive than Millsap and has much more advanced shooting and ball handling. Think more like Danny Granger than Paul Millsap.
 
This is a legitimate question that I've posed mostly to the people that are desperate to trade Millsap for a sub-par, lesser-twin from Stanford, but Williams could be awesome. As always, the questions are defensively. However, whatever disadvantages he brings to defense, he brings an exact advantage to offense. An incredibly versatile, gifted, and cerebral scorer that picks apart his matchup's defensive weakness. He's a very aggressive player in general. He seems like he could play the 3, but we'll have to see how that goes as time goes. At worst, he can be a very good 2nd scoring option or the best 3rd scoring option in the NBA.

Draftexpress.com said:
Best Case: Michael Beasley W/perfect Intangibles
Worst Case: More Athletic Antawn Jamison
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That pretty much sums it up. Pretty rad.
 
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