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Sources: Utah has expressed interest in re-acquring Deron Williams

NUMBERICA said:
Uhh. This team would be last year's disappointment without all of the reinforcement that they finally did last offseason by adding DREADED VETERANS.
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So we make the 8th seed last year and get blasted by the Warriors? Do the Hawks/Pacers even include us in a trade to get Hill if we have the 17th pick instead of the 12th?
 
sgjazzfan said:
So if Jazz were interested in trading for him, then why would they not claim him off waivers and essentially get him for nothing other than the remainder of his salary? Obvious answer must be he didn't want to come to Utah.
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I think the more obvious answer is that the Jazz really didn't want him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If he does clear waivers Jazz can offer him more money to come over this year... Could offer him 4.2 to get to the floor. Not sure the pro-rated difference between that and what Cleveland offers is worth it in his mind (would be about a million dollars), but we could go higher and give ourselves a team option in second year too. Would he take a two year $20M deal with second year being a team option or mostly non-guaranteed? Would pay him an additional 2-3 Million this year and give us an option next year if we want it.
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2 year 20 Mil for Deron? Are you crazy?
 
2 years $20 million?!?!?!?! Are you insane?

He is getting $10 million from Mark Cuban this season. Most of that has been paid. He could have an extended stay with his family here in SLC by signing for about $3 - $4 million. There is NO WAY we are giving him more than 1 season because G. Hill and G Hay need theirs. Deron would be paid like a back up point guard and would get us over the floor (if that's an issue) and help prove himself to SLC fans again. His other most obvious choice is to probably take less money to go play with Bron bron and try to get a ring for riding the pine behind Krie Krie. Both are teams that need backup help. Deron for 1 year doesn't piss off Dante but gives us more depth at a spot we need help at. There are probably other teams in the mix, but the Jazz could probably pay him more now than most teams, give him a chance to redeem himself, let him live with his family who live here during the offseason... etc. Cavs are a cop-out.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
2 years $20 million?!?!?!?! Are you insane?

He is getting $10 million from Mark Cuban this season. Most of that has been paid. He could have an extended stay with his family here in SLC by signing for about $3 - $4 million. There is NO WAY we are giving him more than 1 season because G. Hill and G Hay need theirs. Deron would be paid like a back up point guard and would get us over the floor (if that's an issue) and help prove himself to SLC fans again. His other most obvious choice is to probably take less money to go play with Bron bron and try to get a ring for riding the pine behind Krie Krie. Both are teams that need backup help. Deron for 1 year doesn't piss off Dante but gives us more depth at a spot we need help at. There are probably other teams in the mix, but the Jazz could probably pay him more now than most teams, give him a chance to redeem himself, let him live with his family who live here during the offseason... etc. Cavs are a cop-out.
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Please read... he'd get the prorated portion of 10M so roughly 2.75 and we'd have a team option for next year or a very small guarantee... like 1M. Just in case Hill leaves we already have his replacement. He gives us the option because we give him more dough... not insane at all. Any good stopgap pg likely costs about that on a one year deal.
 
The other option is do nothing... hope we have no injuries or that Dante doesn't poop his pants in the playoffs and pay an extra 4 million to the players we have on our roster... so it's more flexibility more protection and less overall cash. I mean it's cool let's pay more and get less out of it... and I'm the one that's crazy.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
So we make the 8th seed last year and get blasted by the Warriors? Do the Hawks/Pacers even include us in a trade to get Hill if we have the 17th pick instead of the 12th?
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You think being able to play actual NBA players instead of the dreck being trotted out last year amounts to two wins in a season where the Jazz lost more close games than any team? Ok.

To your second question, I honestly don't see why not. That draft was bleh and it doesn't seem like the Pacers cared all that much.
 
NUMBERICA said:
You think being able to play actual NBA players instead of the dreck being trotted out last year amounts to two wins in a season where the Jazz lost more close games than any team? Ok.

To your second question, I honestly don't see why not. That draft was bleh and it doesn't seem like the Pacers cared all that much.
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Hard to say unless I know who exactly we would have gotten. Most moves we would have done would have probably changed what moves we made this past summer, and I'm pretty happy with the current state of the team.

The Hawks are the ones that got the pick, not the Pacers. If you think they wanted a specific player, Taurean Prince, then it's possible they wouldn't want to trade for the pick unless that player was available at w/e pick we had. Hard to say if he would have been drafted or not. Hard to say what would happen in hypothetical situations overall.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Please read... he'd get the prorated portion of 10M so roughly 2.75 and we'd have a team option for next year or a very small guarantee... like 1M. Just in case Hill leaves we already have his replacement. He gives us the option because we give him more dough... not insane at all. Any good stopgap pg likely costs about that on a one year deal.
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Wait, the Jazz would've gotten a team option?!
 
NUMBERICA said:
Wait, the Jazz would've gotten a team option?!
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He is saying if we signed him to a deal once he clears waivers. If we just pick him up off waivers it just continues the deal he had with the Mavs, which ends this year.

At least, I think.

I'd be surprised if D-Will agree to a 2 year deal with a team option at his age. I would guess he is going to sign a short term deal with the Cavs then look for a long-term deal, hoping he builds up some value on a championship team.
 
So, wait? Cleveland wanted Mack, Utah wanted Deron so Utah doesn't make a trade to Cleveland so Cleveland signs Deron?

Well, that sucked.

I hope this isn't another case of, "Well, if we keep Mack over Deron we probably get swept in the playoffs but we save a ton of money".
 
franklin said:
Can Cleveland even sign the guy?

How much was D.Will bought out for? His contract was $9 million and the rumors I see say Dallas is giving him 2.5. Why would Deron oblige Dallas and leave 6.5 on the table if he and his agent don't have an unspoken deal with a team willing to give him at least the remaining 6.5 plus a few valuable years of extension?

Cleveland is over the cap. They cannot pick up Williams on waivers and, as far as I can see, they have no exceptions other than the standard vet minimum.

So, if this buyout rumor is true, nobody picks up the waiver (zero chance of happening IMO), Cleveland cannot sign him if my assumptions are correct post-waiver, then who is the team offering him a better deal to compensate for the 6.5 million he gave up in Dallas?

Houston bros.
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Maybe I've missed something but of the $9m, Deron would have already been paid about 2/3's of that. His cap hit would be the full amount, but a team acquiring him only has to pay out the remaining months of his contract.
 
green said:
So, wait? Cleveland wanted Mack, Utah wanted Deron so Utah doesn't make a trade to Cleveland so Cleveland signs Deron?

Well, that sucked.

I hope this isn't another case of, "Well, if we keep Mack over Deron we probably get swept in the playoffs but we save a ton of money".
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How do you know Utah wanted Deron?
 
Lou Williams hit 7/11 3s today for 27 points. Killer deal for Houston. But no, I guess he wouldn't have helped us.
 
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