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Stockton IS involved with the Jazz

The mechanisms of an intelligence network are floooooring nickkk right now. Crazy stuff, eh?

You won't get to the bottom of this with your own powers of deduction. You dont know nearly enough. The end.
 
green said:
I can see Boston/Dallas letting KOC know. A gentleman's tip.

"Hey, KOC, we are tight. I know you wanted Olynyk, but Boston's taking him at #13. Don't go get him, but if you any worthwhile player, you better move up."
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But you're assuming BOS/DAL knows the Jazz likes Olynyk??? With the way GMs keep their cards close to their chest, there is no way KOC would have told anyone that we liked Olynyk.

The only guy KOC would have told is Olynyk's agent (just to test/see if there's any deals being done - that's how crafty KOC is IMO).


- KOC would have said something along the line of: "Hey, we like your guy...."

- Then I reckon Olynyk's agent let it slip: "Wow..that's cool, but just as a heads up? We have a team trading up ahead of you to grab him. I can't say who it is, but just to let you know in case you can make other moves to get him, Olynyk would likely be be gone when you're picking".


To me that's a very real possibility. Nobody's doing anything wrong. The agent is well within his right to say "something is going down" but not revealing the team. KOC is well within his right to ask. Lindsey is therefore very comfortable in telling the WHOLE WORLD about this.

No dodgy deal. Everything would have been legit.
 
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The mechanisms of an intelligence network are floooooring nickkk right now. Crazy stuff, eh?

You won't get to the bottom of this with your own powers of deduction. You dont know nearly enough. The end.
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You deserve rep
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Yeah, a neg rep. LOL..
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Why do accident attorneys always know the sums of cash they can settle for while staying out of court? It's because the legal teams and the insurance teams cross-pollenate; you get good at one job, then you're hired by the "enemy" and visa versa. You can't get anywhere with either job unless you have intelligence on the other.

This is the most rudimentary example of what KOC sits near the top of in the NBA. He knows people, and he knows who has been pollenating whom. Naw mean? People move from organization to organization, and they take intelligence and contacts with them. You don't think Lindsey knew what the Spurs were doing? Cmon.

You don't know 5% of what was discussed, so there's no point in writing some crime fiction here.

He knew. I'm not surprised.

The End.

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This is completely being blown out of proportion.
I bet all Stockton really did to earn himself 'involvement' was merely switching channels to the NCAA tourney game during Seinfeld rerun commercials when Dennis Lindsey came to the room.
 
I'm happy the way things turned out, but if these rumors are true, doesn't it bother you that the Jazz once again were seriously interested in getting a scrub white guy in the draft? Olynyk...gross.
 
akirac73 said:
I'm happy the way things turned out, but if these rumors are true, doesn't it bother you that the Jazz once again were seriously interested in getting a scrub white guy in the draft? Olynyk...gross.
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Olynyk had a great SL game. At #14 it was unlikely the Jazz were going to get a starter. As a backup big, Olynyk's perimeter game would really open things up for Kanter or Favors (think 3-man rotation) to operate inside.

AS for the leak to Utah, I was thinking more along the line of Olynyk's agent. He knew the Jazz really liked his client. A possibility is telling Utah he's not going to be there at #14. Jazz moving up and taking him would give Olynyk more money and his agent more money. But I think it far more likely the tip came from an EC team or from hearing Boston was acquiring the pick from Dallas. KOC came from Philly, I'm sure he still has a ton of contacts in the East. In the course of conversation, no one is going to disclose their own plans, but I'm sure there's a lot of, "hey, old friend, so what you are you hearing out there. This is a rumor we heard about team X. Great, thanks for letting us now. And just as a heads up, we'll likely have some cap space come July, We can talk later about any personnel moves you guys may want to make. See if anything makes sense for both of us or if we can facilitate any moves."
 
akirac73 said:
I'm happy the way things turned out, but if these rumors are true, doesn't it bother you that the Jazz once again were seriously interested in getting a scrub white guy in the draft? Olynyk...gross.
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I don't know how much of a scrub he'll be, but a Olynyk/Gobert draft depresses me a lot more than a Burke/Gobert draft....and the Jazz gave up pretty much nothing but a 2nd round pick to attain that difference. That if ****ing studly GM work there.
 
Nate505 said:
I don't know how much of a scrub he'll be, but a Olynyk/Gobert draft depresses me a lot more than a Burke/Gobert draft....and the Jazz gave up pretty much nothing but a 2nd round pick to attain that difference. That if ****ing studly GM work there.
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I think it would have been Olynyk and then the jazz trying to trade up for Shroeder or Larkin. Despite his off performance today, I think we can probably agree Burke can be a starter. And I ABSOLUTELY agree with the Jazz' international scout...teams were "sleeping" on Gobert. He's more advanced than we thought. Still needs to develop some offense, but he runs the floor well already. And if the NBA does change the rule about touching the ball after it hits the rim, his size and reach will be very valuable. Was funny to see him on the dunk. He barely jumped and his elbows looked like they were even with the rim.


Anyway, I'm much more excited about Burke + Gobert than Olynyk plus Schroeder (if we could have even traded up into the late teens).
 
The only thing I needed to hear about Gobert was from Sloan... something along the lines of "Watch out for that big guy, he plays hard"

If Sloan thinks Gobert plays hard... then we've got a tremendous talent on our hands.

Not to mention Gobert is the next Steve Nash... did you see how many high-5's that guy threw around today?!?!?!
 
akirac73 said:
I'm happy the way things turned out, but if these rumors are true, doesn't it bother you that the Jazz once again were seriously interested in getting a scrub white guy in the draft? Olynyk...gross.
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Yeah, ****ing white people pretending they can play basketball... How pathetic. Don't they know how inferior they are?
 
I think Olynyk can fill a significant niche for a winning team even if it is still limited. I still think an Olynyk/Schroeder draft would've been really cool but I am happier with how everything unfolded.
 
Gameface said:
Yeah, ****ing white people pretending they can play basketball... How pathetic. Don't they know how inferior they are?
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Sorry, that was uncalled for. Although the Jazz has a history of whiffing in the draft on white big men (Ostertag, Padgett, Borchardt, Koufos, Collins, Fes, etc.) there were a couple of gems like Kirilenko and Kanter. I apologize.
 
akirac73 said:
Sorry, that was uncalled for. Although the Jazz has a history of whiffing in the draft on white big men (Ostertag, Padgett, Borchardt, Koufos, Collins, Fes, etc.) there were a couple of gems like Kirilenko and Kanter. I apologize.
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Collins is white? Jazz also have a history of drafting some pretty good black big men like Malone and Millsap. And some pretty bad ones who were black. I think it's more a result of draft position than skin color. The Jazz were always targeting "BBA" (Best Big Available) instead of "BPA" with those picks in the high teens and twenties. Any bigs drafted that low are either projects, undersized or have medical/behavioral red flags.
 
White Collins is a running hilarious campy Jazz joke and I hate it that someone didn't get it and this fact has to be pointed out and explained
 
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