Along the ketchup line:
When the ketchup or mustard is almost gone, so it’s stored lid down and then you open it and it’s like Mt. Saint Helens erupting.
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Along the ketchup line:
When the ketchup or mustard is almost gone, so it’s stored lid down and then you open it and it’s like Mt. Saint Helens erupting.
along similar lines, though not necessarily food related - when the cover of the squeeze bottle/tube just can't be removed to let you get the last bit out
that's happened to me recently with shampoo and sunscreen and it really pisses me off - - you just know there's a ton left just inside the top and you just can't get at it.
People who want nothing to do with the Mormon church until they need something from it. This is true for all organizations, but I saw a post in my neighborhood Facebook page that said “Does anyone know how to get in touch with my Bishop? We don’t go to church, but we need some help right now.”
But this is the exact kind of opportunity the LDS church offers this kind of help for. They'll help them with some food, might cover their mortgage this month, and then they'll ask them to volunteer at the food pantry, tell them to let them know at church next Sunday if things are getting any better and if they need any help. They'll say if you need help with X talk to whatshisname after sacrament, he has helped several people with that type of thing.
I've have known people who had nothing to do with the LDS church except having a family connection to it, go there because they needed help and end up becoming very active.
I understand what you're saying. Truly, I do. I also firmly believe in the teaching of helping people when they need it. I'm also the son of a two time Bishop. The ratio of people who grossly abuse the system vs those that become very active is ridiculous. As a young teenager, I overheard my dad having to tell people that he had to stop giving them money if they didn't show up to help clean the church for an hour or come the Sunday meetings like they've been promising to do for the last 3+ months. I find it kind of disgusting.
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It's a tough call. I'm sure each situation is different and the best answer is probably as varied as each situation is different. There are people that abuse the system, but there are also people that truly need help in more ways than just monetary ways. I personally have found that I can't let it get to me, and trust that the Bishop does his best to make the best call. Being bothered about it only affects me, so I let it go.
To me both you and Bulletproof have points.
Na. I think the point is similar to those that ask for charity on a street corner as their job. There are people that "shop" lds bishops, and jump on new bishops to get them to pay for rent or other things for them when they don't really need it. The "abusing" the system is referring to those that don't really need help but are asking for help with false stories to get something.
It's not really about them becoming active or joining the church, but there will probably be efforts to encourage or help them spiritually as well as temporally as much as they allow. It is also temporary.
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No. I think you’re purposefully jumping to that extreme.
The Church’s (any organization’s) welfare system is designed to be used temporarily and in case of emergency. I love the Church’s welfare system.
It is also very easy to abuse. Like, beyond easy. When my dad was Bishop, he would use it benefit anyone who needed it, member or not, as it’s designed. But there were instances where someone used it long term (like the Church paid their rent for an entire 6 month lease). That is not its purpose, but it can be used that way. In those cases, my dad would ask them to participate in some things to help the Church as well, like help clean the chapel every Saturday with the other members doing it. Or shovel the snow from the Church sidewalks. Simple, easy stuff like that. There were cases where people would agree to that, but never show up. Never set foot inside the building unless they were collecting their check. Those are the ones that bother me.
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He does that sometimes...
Good points. There are also finite resources, so I'm sure bishops have to carefully weigh who gets helped by the donations, and to what extent. Someone who has, for example, faithfully paid tithing and other donations but has fallen on hard times may (I imagine) get a higher priority than someone who has never done that. Or maybe not, if the second individual/family is deemed to have a higher need. I'm certain the bishops in the church have many tough decisions to make.
It certainly seemed by the comments
But I think it's often misinterpreted as antagonistic, when it isn't. Not to say I'm not frequently antagonistic... or that that post isn't somewhat antagonistic. That's not the point of the post, though.
I hope that people who have engaged me in honest discussions know that I will concede the point when I'm wrong. I'm not trying to "win" an argument. I'm trying to understand where people are coming from. I find that often it is useful to make a challenging statement like that so that people can dispel the extreme interpretation of what they are expressing. I feel like it is an honest thing to do on my part, but maybe it isn't taken that way. Maybe people take is as though I'm trying to take a sly jab at people by asking a question like that, and that I'm waiting for a predictable response so that I can pounce and then beat my chest about how smart I am. I hope that people, like BigB, who I've spent dozens and dozens of hours with in person and years on jazzfans, know that I'm not trying to do that to them when I engage in a discussion with them.
I do.
But I think it's often misinterpreted as antagonistic, when it isn't. Not to say I'm not frequently antagonistic... or that that post isn't somewhat antagonistic. That's not the point of the post, though.
I hope that people who have engaged me in honest discussions know that I will concede the point when I'm wrong. I'm not trying to "win" an argument. I'm trying to understand where people are coming from. I find that often it is useful to make a challenging statement like that so that people can dispel the extreme interpretation of what they are expressing. I feel like it is an honest thing to do on my part, but maybe it isn't taken that way. Maybe people take is as though I'm trying to take a sly jab at people by asking a question like that, and that I'm waiting for a predictable response so that I can pounce and then beat my chest about how smart I am. I hope that people, like BigB, who I've spent dozens and dozens of hours with in person and years on jazzfans, know that I'm not trying to do that to them when I engage in a discussion with them.
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From the bishops I have known this is governed by their personal opinion (first and foremost), some direction from the stake, and guidelines from the brethren.
My dad always tried to help who he could and put their individual needs ahead of their status in the church. If you needed more than someone else, you got more.
By brother-in-law (currently serving as a bishop) is very stingy (by his own admission) and he has a generally bad attitude about people in need, leaning toward the idea that they are just looking for a hand-out and are generally lazy. He says some of this is driven by the stake to be better stewards over funds, but that is his cover imo, it is really his own attitude. Which is weird because in general he tends to be very liberal for a mormon.
Another bishop we dealt with, when we had a health crisis early in our marriage before I started into my career, insisted on checking our cupboards (literally) and bank accounts and bills before issuing even a bishop's storehouse order, and even then he let the RS president fill it out, then he cut items off the list. He made us feel like we were criminals that needed to be kept in check. He claimed it was because so many people take advantage. It didn't matter than before I got sick we had given freely, even taking on a sub-for-santa family one year when our kids were little and we had a little extra money. As soon as we were in need, we needed to be kept in check so we didn't "take advantage", whatever the hell that means when he decides a family of 5 with small children need 1 instead of 2 gallons of milk for the next 2 weeks, and don't need any carrots or apples (yes he cut those from our order entirely). But he left the canned beans on there, all 6 cans, so we ate a lot of those.
In short I guess the church just puts these guys in place and lets them run things the way they see fit. They are human beings and will all have different takes on how to handle their stewardship. And frankly, some will be better stewards, of both the flock and the money, than others.
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When people post pictures of themselves online and write captions other than, "I think I look good in this picture and I like attention, please like to confirm."
These pictures are usually a selfie of them sitting in a car or in their house somewhere and read like, "I'm about to start a long day of work!" or "The cats are playing and I'm hungry."
Damn it, I hate those posts and I used to do **** like that until I realized what the **** I was doing.
These pictures are usually a selfie of them sitting in a car or in their house somewhere and read like, "I'm about to start a long day of work!" or "The cats are playing and I'm hungry."
Damn it, I hate those posts and I used to do **** like that until I realized what the **** I was doing.
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I think it’s the result of a digital conversation instead a live one. Usually, I don’t get the super antagonistic vibe from you. But with that comment I did. Maybe I jumped to it incorrectly. If so, I apologize.
I did try a few implements (pliers, screwdriver, can punch) and the best I could do was get a minor gash in my thumb. The cover didn't budge.
It's very annoying when it looks like it should unscrew, but it doesn't.
idestroyedthetoilet
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Having to rebuild my lawnmower carb every summer. Okay, it's not really rebuilding like a vehicle carb but it's still annoying. Almost as annoying as having to manually include the apostraphe in it's on a phone.
