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James Harden and Trae Young being difficult is kind of an irrelevant point. Would anyone sane advocate for letting Trae/James fall to 20 in a draft.
 
The stuff with Cam seemed like teams thought he was autistic. Not that he was a difficult personality or like that, but that he didnt smile/talk enough (combined with w/e knee issues he had).
 
James Harden and Trae Young being difficult is kind of an irrelevant point. Would anyone sane advocate for letting Trae/James fall to 20 in a draft.
No its not, since the point was never to compare those three but to state that talent is only one part of the evaluation.

Not surprised you missed it.
 
The stuff with Cam seemed like teams thought he was autistic. Not that he was a difficult personality or like that, but that he didnt smile/talk enough (combined with w/e knee issues he had).
I hadn't considered the possibility that he's legitimately neurodivergent but he seems like he might be. Which would be a crazy ****** thing to pass on him for for a lot of reasons.

I think the Jazz ****ed up on this and we're gonna spend more than a little time bellyaching the Hendricks pick as it almost doesn't matter how good he might be right now because he's just not positioned to make an impact right now. I seriously do not understand drafting him and then going all in on grabbing/retaining as many bigs and big forwards as they could get. Just take the ****ing swing on Cam if you're at the goal line for getting Collins (and keeping KO, and going after Paul Reed/Yurtseven).

As to how he kept slipping, I think it's entirely reasonable that after falling past the Jazz - the lowest team he worked out with - the rest of the teams were already elbow deep in their draft plans/targets and they saw the Jazz pass and saw that as proof that he should've been slipping. I would love to know one day what happened, but something we do know is that sometimes that dumb **** just happens like with Rashard Lewis.
 
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I hadn't considered the possibility that he's legitimately neurodivergent but he seems like he might be. Which would be a crazy ****** thing to pass on him for for a lot of reasons.

I think the Jazz ****ed up on this and we're gonna spend more than a little time bellyaching the Hendricks pick as it almost doesn't matter how good he might be right now because he's just not positioned to make an impact right now. I seriously do not understand drafting him and then going all in on grabbing/retaining as many bigs and big forwards as they could get. Just take the ****ing swing on Cam if you're at the goal line for getting Collins (and keeping KO, and going after Paul Reed/Yurtseven).

As to how he kept slipping, I think it's entirely reasonable that after falling past the Jazz - the lowest team he worked out with - the rest of the teams were already elbow deep in their draft plans/targets and they saw the Jazz pass and saw that as proof that he should've been slipping. I would love to know one day what happened, but something we do know is that sometimes that dumb **** just happens like with Rashard Lewis.
Maybe I've got myself twisted, but Hendricks seems positioned to make a few obvious impacts. After all, he's switchable 3 thru 5 (at least), can provide legitimate rim protection as a rotating help defender, and can hit the three. There's not a team in the league that couldn't use more of all of that, imo.
 
Maybe I've got myself twisted, but Hendricks seems positioned to make a few obvious impacts. After all, he's switchable 3 thru 5 (at least), can provide legitimate rim protection as a rotating help defender, and can hit the three. There's not a team in the league that couldn't use more of all of that, imo.

I agree 100%.
And still dont think he gets regular minutes unless there are injuries or a trade.
 
Maybe I've got myself twisted, but Hendricks seems positioned to make a few obvious impacts. After all, he's switchable 3 thru 5 (at least), can provide legitimate rim protection as a rotating help defender, and can hit the three. There's not a team in the league that couldn't use more of all of that, imo.
Look, I actually like(d) Hendricks. Won't matter if he can't get on the floor for a couple of years; it's a terrible use of an asset to just go out of your way and bury a top-ten pick less then a week after drafting them.
 
Look, I actually like(d) Hendricks. Won't matter if he can't get on the floor for a couple of years; it's a terrible use of an asset to just go out of your way and bury a top-ten pick less then a week after drafting them.
Olynyk's contract is up after this year. If Hendricks is that good, after a year in the G-League he'll still be good, and move into the 4-5 backup role.
 
Maybe I've got myself twisted, but Hendricks seems positioned to make a few obvious impacts. After all, he's switchable 3 thru 5 (at least), can provide legitimate rim protection as a rotating help defender, and can hit the three. There's not a team in the league that couldn't use more of all of that, imo.

My guess would be he'll be similar to Agbaji in that he'll take half a season just to know where he should be on the court.

I do think with his size and athleticism he'll be able to make some plays that are going to be exciting and we're all going to want to see more, probably a lot earlier than Hardy is ready to play him.
 
I noticed the Hawks let Tryese Martin go a 6'6"wing from UConn who was a late 2nd round pick in 2022. The guy averaged close to a double double in the GLeague last season. He had a 25 point game in Vegas vs the TWolves last week. This guy looks to be worlds better than Hauser. Just my $0.25 opinion. The reason for cutting him is his guarantee was due for next season.
 
I'd comfortably wager that Hendricks will be a regular part of the rotation by midway through next season, if not sooner. There's a consolidation trade coming soon enough, IMO
I think midway through 23/24 season is probably the correct over/under.

We took on Collin's contract, which to me signals that we are prioritizing winning vs developing. I don't think we would agree to take on that contract if we didn't think Collins was worth it and could help our team win games.

On the other hand we have spent 0 of our accumulated assets, which to me signals that we are still in asset accumulation/development mode. If that's the case Hendricks should get some regular, even if minimal, rotation minutes so he can develop.

It does feel like something with KO has to be coming. I think it might happen at the deadline though.
 
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