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trigg3r said:
Is that an attempt at insulting me? Seriously.....
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Lighten up. It was funny.

As for your stance, I also agree that it will further divide the country. I guaranteee that the contempt vote on Eric holder with go thru the House now. (Matheson here in Utah stated he will support the cotnempt vote).
 
If I understand correctly, Roberts didn't vote for the law under the ability for the government to fine you if you don't buy it, but as a right to tax that congress clearly has, even though the Dems have been claiming it's not a tax the entire time.
 
Thank the high heavens....

I still haven't heard why the right suddenly turned against their own baby. The Heritage Foundation helped to create the Individual Mandate idea and repubs like Orrin Hatch supported it. Now... It was touted as being a measure to control costs (something repubs used to talk about all the time)....


Now....

All of a sudden.... It became unconstitutional to them? It doesn't control costs? Why?

What changed?
 
The Thriller said:
Thank the high heavens....

I still haven't heard why the right suddenly turned against their own baby. The Heritage Foundation helped to create the Individual Mandate idea and repubs like Orrin Hatch supported it. Now... It was touted as being a measure to control costs (something repubs used to talk about all the time)....


Now....

All of a sudden.... It became unconstitutional to them? It doesn't control costs? Why?

What changed?
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They are politicians. W hat changed is the attitude of their constituents. Politicians change with the winds to stay alive. They support it now and it is political suicide.
 
We're all Wall Street's bitches now. They are the only ones who benefit from this ruling. It's not that they're forcing us to pay for other's HC, it's that I must now line the pockets that much heavier of the health insurance firms and Wall Street banks that own them.

3 hoorahs for fascism.
 
franklin said:
We're all Wall Street's bitches now. They are the only ones who benefit from this ruling. It's not that they're forcing us to pay for other's HC, it's that I must now line the pockets that much heavier of the health insurance firms and Wall Street banks that own them.
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You can choose to pay the fine, instead, and send that money to the government.
 
One Brow said:
The divide in this country is not based on the actual activities and laws of the government, so the affirming/overturning of them will not affect the divide.
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Interesting, please elaborate. You acknowledge a divided country, so to what do you attribute this divide?
 
mellow said:
Interesting, please elaborate. You acknowledge a divided country, so to what do you attribute this divide?
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The racist whites. If only they didn't have that racist gene in their DNA.

Edit: At this point it has become a spiraling circle. The laws and activities inflame the other side. Everything is partisan now.
 
One Brow said:
You can choose to pay the fine, instead, and send that money to the government.
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And go without any health insurance? Yeah.

Why are you putting on this faccade anyway? You're smart enough to hate this fascist mandate and should prefer social programs and taxation over lining Wall Street's pockets even more. A tiny $30,000,000 is all it took to change Obama's mind and give the banks another 30,000,000 customers in their insurance company holdings.

So why exactly are you shilling for Wall Street and fronting as if you support this?
 
mellow said:
Interesting, please elaborate. You acknowledge a divided country, so to what do you attribute this divide?
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Corporate interests, fanning the flames of fears that were already present. The attempts of the entrenched Christian power structure to maintain its informal hegemony over government institutions. The arrogance of thinking that solutions can be imposed without understanding and operating within the culture that created the problems being addressed.
 
Stoked said:
The racist whites. If only they didn't have that racist gene in their DNA.
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Man, I must have really gotten into your head. Good. I hjope you never see your life in the same way again.

Stoked said:
Edit: At this point it has become a spiraling circle. The laws and activities inflame the other side. Everything is partisan now.
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If the laws were not available (for example, if the mandate had been overturned), something else would be used instead. Outrage is the product, the focus of that outrage is incidental.
 
trigg3r said:
If the Feds can force us to buy HC now, what can't they force us to buy?
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Nothing. And that includes forcing you to pay for education to give yourself an open mind and intelligence.

Of course if you don't like it, you can always beat your plow into a sword and have the full weight of the anti-terrorism empire come down on you. Better to just sit back and relax, post the flag on your house next Wednesday and enjoy a parade. Maybe even try talking to a stranger, and stop listening to the fear mongers, who use fear to keep power.
 
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