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Taking a step back next season...

Would we be taking a step back next season?

  • Yes, definitely out of the playoffs

    Votes: 13 44.8%

  • Nope, 8th spot or better... no doubt about it.

    Votes: 16 55.2%
  • Total voters
    29
Beantown

Beantown

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Can a team based on a group of our current young guys make it to the 8th spot or better next season? Assuming the following players are getting the majority of the minutes next season.

Burks
Hayward
Carrol/Evans
Kanter
Favors
 
Beantown said:
Can a team based on a group of our current young guys make it to the 8th spot or better next season? Assuming the following players are getting the majority of the minutes next season.

Burks
Hayward
Carrol/Evans
Kanter
Favors
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Not without veteran leadership, someone who's been there before. This is why we need Jefferson, Foye, Williams and Williams. They know how to win and take their teams far into the playoffs.
 
Ty the Turd said:
No way that team would make the playoffs in the west. SOOOOOOOOOOOO much would depend on Burks and Hayward.
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Assume though that the Jazz fill out the roster with half decent players but most minutes are from those young guys. But at this point I think the Jazz have had more success with Burks running the PG than any other PG we have.
 
Assuming some progress for Favors, Burks, and Kanter, I would say that the core 4 should offer a better product than what we currently have from the get go (giving them ~15 games to mesh as teams typically start out the season slowly).

I predict 7th spot.
 
really depends on who they get to back them up. If they are the starters, they will be good, but if they have scrubs come in to relieve them, then they will have a tough time. I have a feeling that the Jazz are going to give the reigns to the young guys, and continue building through the draft and unproven players. I think it will take a few years to build a contender. In that Grantland article, Lowe talks about how the Jazz would be ok with taking a step back next year, and that would totally happen if we get rid of all our vets and dont replace them with competent players to come off the bench.
 
Hartsock said:
I would be shocked if that team made the playoffs, beyond shocked.
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Ty the Turd said:
No way that team would make the playoffs in the west. SOOOOOOOOOOOO much would depend on Burks and Hayward.
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nightmare3983 said:
This group wouldn't make the playoffs, but they'd sure be fun to watch.
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To echo stoked, why? Our core four is good now. With those guys getting more minutes and then Jeremy Evans and other guys. I think we will be better.
 
West is only going to be stronger. LAL will be better. DAL will add veterans around Dirk. Minny will have Love back and Rubio too. Houston will grow from within and add FA's. Portland-- will probably win the lottery. SAS, Clippers and Memphis might regress a little, but not enough to help the Jazz, same with Denver.

The only gimmies on the West schedule is NOP and SAC and they both beat the Jazz this season and could improve with all the young talent and new ownership.

Jazz could actually be a better team than this year and still end up with fewer wins and out of the playoffs.
 
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Playing the young guns is a win win

Keeps the fan base happy
If they excel, and exceed expectations great if they don't we had fun watching the ride, have a better idea of who to resign going forward, and we get a lotto pick in a what experts are saying is a loaded draft
 
It is only 6 players so hard to judge. Are we keeping Leslie? I would not mind keeping Mo as veteran PG/leadership presence. And if we get few hard working, defensive minded players ( Landry, Courtney Lee, Mbah a Moute for example) to round up the bench it is very possible they could make playoffs.

Mo/Burks
Hayward/Lee/Leslie
Carroll/Mbah a Moute/Evans
Favors/Landry
Kanter/ ??? veteran big - Dalembert maybe? I like B. Wright from Dallas as well.
Throw in some filler and they can make playoffs IMHO.
Oh, almost forgot... not with Corbin as a coach.
 
I voted we will make playoffs. I figure the only reason we are even sniffing the playoffs this year is because of our young guys.... seems to me that the vets are holding this team back... What will we do without foye, marvin, tinsley, watson and the rest taking crucial minutes from the better players on the team... Plus as someone else said, the bench/youth/core4 have great chemistry already.

Having said that, i kinda want to miss the playoffs and go after some of these dudes in next years that that PKM and his posse are always raving about.
 
AKMVP said:
It is only 6 players so hard to judge. Are we keeping Leslie? I would not mind keeping Mo as veteran PG/leadership presence. And if we get few hard working, defensive minded players ( Landry, Courtney Lee, Mbah a Moute for example) to round up the bench it is very possible they could make playoffs.

Mo/Burks
Hayward/Lee/Leslie
Carroll/Mbah a Moute/Evans
Favors/Landry
Kanter/ ??? veteran big - Dalembert maybe? I like B. Wright from Dallas as well.
Throw in some filler and they can make playoffs IMHO.
Oh, almost forgot... not with Corbin as a coach.
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Wurd up my brotha
 
Stoked said:
Why? Are those guys not better than the vets we have now? Do they not gel and compliment each other better?
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1. Our bench would be much worse with these players starting
2. I don't think these players will be consistent enough offensively to be a playoff team
3. Kanter and Hayward are the only 2 I would be comfortable counting on night in and night out, and I wouldn't be that confident in them yet

I think it would be a damn fun team to watch, but I just don't think they would be a playoff team. Unless we happened to sign a really nice bench.
 
I doubt it. Let's say that management gets the team a few solid vets to bring leadership to the team. Guess what? They'd probably start.

Really

Even if they were journeymen. I've come to accept that, and it's not good for the team at this point. Thus the only way that our coach (whom I like everything else about) to not bring his most talented players off the bench is to bring in players that are even more young and inexperienced than the 'big 4'. (Travis Leslie anyone?)

So simply: if they bring in vet journeymen, they start and the team is the same if not worse than it was this year. If they bring in younger players with potential, than the whole team is relatively inexperienced and loses a lot of games in the fourth quarter.
 
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