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Thought this was a pretty good read, and cast some new light on Utah's own crowded PF situation.


On Team Building, and Why the Cavs Needed to Trade J.J. Hickson
Published: Thursday, July 07, 2011, 9:00 AM Updated: Thursday, July 07, 2011, 9:16 AM
By Michael Curry

Okay, now comes the part where I disagree with most of what I wrote in this article on Friday. Well, not really. But while I still believe that the Cavs failed to maximize the value of J.J. Hickson in the trade for Omri Casspi, I also believe that the trade accomplished some fundamental roster-building elements. Today, we'll talk about how Hickson was a tough fit for any roster going forward, and in a separate post we'll talk about how Casspi and #4 pick Tristan Thompson may be a better fit on the roster going forward.

Point 1: Team-building is important.

There are hundreds of really talented basketball players on the planet. If all you had to do was collect twelve guys with more talent than any other group of twelve guys on the planet, being an NBA GM would be easy. But you can't just throw a bunch of talented guys together and hope that they can play as a team; the players need roles and responsibilities that guide them to winning basketball. That is what team-building is all about.

Owner Dan Gilbert and Cavs GM Chris Grant have said that they are committed to building a Championship-contending team "the right way" in the Cleveland. To do that, Grant must focus on building a team that balances the strengths and weaknesses of good players, a team that is is greater than the sum of its parts. And that's where things get tricky.

Building around superstars like LeBron James is inherently easier - these players have multiple strengths and few weaknesses. They help cover up weaknesses in other players, which gives you more flexibility in building the roster around them. Given how difficult it can be to acquire the types of players you want, building around a superstar is the most straightforward way to constructing on competent roster.

Unfortunately, Chris Grant does not find himself in that position. As good as I think that Kyrie Irving is going to be (please, God, let him have real point guard instincts), the Cavs are not going to be able to build around a super-duper star for the foreseeable future unless they fall into another lucky lottery selection. With that in mind, the Cavs must construct a lineup that is more balanced than the lineups they have been using over the past several years.

The team doesn't need to be built immediately. There is time for Irving and the rest of the team to grow together, and during that stretch the Cavs can collect players and assets, learning about which players can complement their core and which players are best used as trade pieces. But ultimately, Grant and his people will need to build a team of players who complement one another. And as we'll see, there are reasons to believe that building that team was going to be more difficult as long as J.J. Hickson was part of the core going forward.


https://blog.cleveland.com/cavshq/2011/07/on_team_building_and_why_the_c.html
 
I disagree. Grant could very well find himself in that position. Unless they don't have a 1st rounder next year, they could end up selecting a flatout stud (even as low as #10-13) to put alongside Irving and Thompson.
 
If they would have drafted Jonas Valacunias they could have paired him with Hickson. While neither of those players have much of a JS, they could both easily develop midrange games. Pair them together with a good PG (Irving) your team would have a solid core.

Drafting Tristan Thompson over Valacunias will go down as one of those "How could you be so stupid" draft mistakes. Thompson wasn't worth the #4 pick, even in a weak draft.
 
I disagree. Grant could very well find himself in that position. Unless they don't have a 1st rounder next year, they could end up selecting a flatout stud (even as low as #10-13) to put alongside Irving and Thompson.

That idea actually goes right alongside the whole JV thing. Getting nothing for LBJ meant tanking 2 seasons to recover. Although I doubt TT helps them win games as a rookie anyways. Cleveland does have a 1st with the right to trade picks with the Heat. IIRC. I do hope Irving is good for their sake, they deserve it.

CT- I disagree that JJ fits with JV. JJ actually doesn't fit very well with almost anybody except maybe Memo or Gasol. JV is going to do the same thing in the NBA he does now, live around the rim cleaning up and p/r's. JJ is a guy that does most of the same but is smaller and doesn't commit himself to defense. They were smart to get rid of him regardless of who they drafted. Cassipi will maybe be be better for the Cavs by himself. JJ does not = wins in the NBA. I would kill for the King's pick next year. Salmons and JJ? LOL!
 
JJ Hickson. The article as a whole was pretty much a slam on him as a starter/star to build around. He isn't a good defender, has no range and is lacking size. That's a lot to make up for with your other big.
 
The Cavs are obviously focused on rebuilding their team. However in my opinion I dont think that they are off to a good start. I couldn't believe when they fired Coach Brown. I thought that they did an incredible job that year even though they didnt win an NBA championship, I feel they maximized on all opportunities to the best of their abilities. Second of all, how could they not see that Lebron was full of **** when he said that he had every intention of re-signing with the team when his contract came to an end. I thought (and feel that most people did too) that it was pretty clear that he had no intentions of continuing his career in cleveland. And then.......... they are trying to rebuild, so they trade for Baron Davis??? Wow, they give up an excellent point guard for on that is aging, in a year long slump and comes with a heafty price tag. Their are too many poor ingredients to be able to come out with a masterpiece. (Why would you trade a reliable honda accord for an older accord that is beat to hell?) Ok, so they got a first round pick out of the deal, but who cares? A week draft; they got a player that could go either way for them, and dont even say, "what about J. Moon?" We all know hes nothing special either. They picked up an over payed menace, thats old, and a couple of fillers. I really wish cleveland luck BUT, I think there is a long way to go for them.
 
The Cavs are obviously focused on rebuilding their team. However in my opinion I dont think that they are off to a good start. I couldn't believe when they fired Coach Brown. I thought that they did an incredible job that year even though they didnt win an NBA championship, I feel they maximized on all opportunities to the best of their abilities. Second of all, how could they not see that Lebron was full of **** when he said that he had every intention of re-signing with the team when his contract came to an end. I thought (and feel that most people did too) that it was pretty clear that he had no intentions of continuing his career in cleveland. And then.......... they are trying to rebuild, so they trade for Baron Davis??? Wow, they give up an excellent point guard for on that is aging, in a year long slump and comes with a heafty price tag. Their are too many poor ingredients to be able to come out with a masterpiece. (Why would you trade a reliable honda accord for an older accord that is beat to hell?) Ok, so they got a first round pick out of the deal, but who cares? A week draft; they got a player that could go either way for them, and dont even say, "what about J. Moon?" We all know hes nothing special either. They picked up an over payed menace, thats old, and a couple of fillers. I really wish cleveland luck BUT, I think there is a long way to go for them.

By getting Baron Davis, they got the #1 pick in the draft moran.

Seems pretty smart to me.
 
By getting Baron Davis, they got the #1 pick in the draft moran.

Seems pretty smart to me.

Ok, so they got a first round pick out of the deal, but who cares? A week draft;

DOI


But seriously, since Lebron screwed them, Cleveland has done everything right except draft Thompson #4. Mike Brown - whether he works for the Lakers or whether the Spurs ran an okay offense with him as an ASSISTANT - was a TERRIBLE offensive coach. Fortunately for everyone else, since Brown's offense consisted of 'get Lebron the ball on every possession and get out of the way' Lebron now doesn't know how to play off the ball.
 
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