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Terrible pick?

This pick sucks?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 10.3%

  • BIG YES

    Votes: 10 14.7%

  • No

    Votes: 51 75.0%
  • Total voters
    68
He's an upgrade over Evans that's for sure, but our other players are really going to have to improve this offseason. I don't hate the pick, maybe its just a sign that they have all the confidence in our current players.
 
All I know, is I don't think there are that many bigs that will be able to check him in summer league. So I think he'll convert any haters in a matter of weeks.
 
Dr. Jones said:
More fluid/finesse.
Less strength.

A better shot, imo. Better passer. Not as good of rebounder.
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Interesting. I really hope he learns to play the 3, and gains some strength. I just can't see him ever becoming better than Favors, and he's too talented to just play 15mpg
 
dalamon said:
Interesting. I really hope he learns to play the 3, and gains some strength. I just can't see him ever becoming better than Favors, and he's too talented to just play 15mpg
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Given the general rule with the late lottery is all picks are a crapshoot, if he's good enough to get rotation time with the FC we've got; I'm ecstatic.
 
fishonjazz said:
I disagree.
The jazz didn't have many needs but one of the small needs that they did have was a backup big since they only had 3 total bigs
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We needed a backup C which he isn't or a stretch 4 which he might become, but isn't yet. Trevor Booker is our backup PF and that's what Lyles is right now. I'm fine with an upside pick that will take time to develop, but I don't see how Lyles fills a need that isn't already filled by Booker.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
We needed a backup C which he isn't or a stretch 4 which he might become, but isn't yet. Trevor Booker is our backup PF and that's what Lyles is right now. I'm fine with an upside pick that will take time to develop, but I don't see how Lyles fills a need that isn't already filled by Booker.
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Favors is obviously not a backup, but he's more of a center than PF (I know, not a popular statement 'round these parts).. which means he should be traded for Pimpslap.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
For the sake of Argument, Booker and Lyles are still both backup PFs, regardless of who starts in front of them.
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One is nearly 6'11", the other is 6'7" and both can play both the 3 and 4. That gives the Jazz some options in terms of matchups, etc. They can go big or small with the back up 4 based on need. That's a good thing.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
One is nearly 6'11", the other is 6'7" and both can play both the 3 and 4. That gives the Jazz some options in terms of matchups, etc. They can go big or small with the back up 4 based on need. That's a good thing.
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All fine and good. Meanwhile, our only backup C is our starting PF. Still not seeing how Lyles fills a need.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
All fine and good. Meanwhile, our only backup C is our starting PF. Still not seeing how Lyles fills a need.
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If we have two versatile back up PFs to backup or starting PF, I don't see how it's a problem that our backup C is our starting PF, especially when that starting PF is perfectly capable of playing C and playing it well, for stretches.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
If we have two versatile back up PFs to backup or starting PF, I don't see how it's a problem that our backup C is our starting PF, especially when that starting PF is perfectly capable of playing C and playing it well, for stretches.
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I'm not complaining about the situation, as I'm a firm believer in drafting BPA. I'm simply responding to fish's claim that Lyles was drafted to fill a need. He wasn't.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
I'm not complaining about the situation, as I'm a firm believer in drafting BPA. I'm simply responding to fish's claim that Lyles was drafted to fill a need. He wasn't.
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Lyles makes more possibilities for favors to play backup center imo.... So though not ideal, it does kind of help with the backup center position
 
What a dumb thread, and anyone who thinks this pick is bad doesn't know anything about basketball. At the very worst, we'll have a moblie four-man who will be able to provide good D on P-N-R/P heavy teams.
 
fishonjazz said:
Lyles makes more possibilities for favors to play backup center imo.... So though not ideal, it does kind of help with the backup center position
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Sure, we can move stuff around and make things work, just so long as neither Favors or Rudy goes down. Still, right now Lyles is another backup 4 just like Booker, when we still have a hole at backup C. All I'm saying is if Utah was drafting for need, they have bigger needs than another backup 4 who really isn't a stretch 4, at least not yet anyway.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Sure, we can move stuff around and make things work, just so long as neither Favors or Rudy goes down. Still, right now Lyles is another backup 4 just like Booker, when we still have a hole at backup C. All I'm saying is if Utah was drafting for need, they have bigger needs than another backup 4 who really isn't a stretch 4, at least not yet anyway.
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Ya, I hated the pick alot
 
When I heard fans react I thought of the reaction we got when drafting Hayward. The Jazz have scouted this guy for a long time, liked him when he worked out here, saw him make a lot of shots and think he's a smart player. How he fits Snyder's system and works within it will be the main thing.

I'm gonna trust the Jazz brass on this. He seems like he could become a pretty versatile player in Snyder's system. People say we need more shooting and we do, but 1. It's early. And 2. Hood. I can't wait to see what Hood does this year, and of course Burks will be back.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Sure, we can move stuff around and make things work, just so long as neither Favors or Rudy goes down. Still, right now Lyles is another backup 4 just like Booker, when we still have a hole at backup C. All I'm saying is if Utah was drafting for need, they have bigger needs than another backup 4 who really isn't a stretch 4, at least not yet anyway.
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I'm switching my attention to Tibor Pliess. Maybe that will make me feel better.
He's big. Scouting report says he has a wide body. And weighs almost 270 (based on 2014 report). His DX profile listed him at 220. A report on him from 2010 said this about him:
Solid pick/roll defender and a terrific shot-blocker (2nd best in Bundesliga). He seems to recover well to get many shots from behind. Excellent rebounder.
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It also said he's average athlete for euroleague / subpar athlete for NBA. But he's listed at 7' 2" .



This is what I'm doing to pull myself out of my depression. DL - bring Pliess over.
 
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