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The 2024 Election Thread - Because It's Never Too Early to Feel Disappointed

Al-O-Meter said:
AOC is one person you can rule out. She'll be too young in 2024 to serve as President per Article II of the US Constitution. 2028 will be the earliest Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez can run for that office.
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She was born on October 13, 1989. She will turn 35 on 10/13/24.
 
I'm 99% certain that Republicans will be running Trump.

I expect Biden to run for re-election, though I would prefer the Dems to put up someone new. I can't think of any strong/realistic prospects off the top of my head, but like folks have said, it's a lifetime away politically. Warren would be at least a small upgrade.
 
Eminence said:
I'm 99% certain that Republicans will be running Trump.

I expect Biden to run for re-election, though I would prefer the Dems to put up someone new. I can't think of any strong/realistic prospects off the top of my head, but like folks have said, it's a lifetime away politically. Warren would be at least a small upgrade.
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Just go look among the Dems for an old white guy and you have your next candidate.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think you miss understood or I wasn't clear.
If trump runs then I'm voting. For the other man or woman.
I'm hoping he doesn't run so I can go back to not voting or caring.
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Glad to hear you'll be voting for DeSantis.

You've finally come around to seeing how the Dems destroyed cities all throughout 2020. How you elected a guy who cant make a peanut butter sandwich nor tie his own shoes. How the Dems lead a ******** investigation into communication with a foreign adversary, meanwhile Maoist Mi Lee was communicating in back channels with a Chinese general undermining US security.

You doin' good @fishonjazz proud of ya son. I knew there was still some American blood running through those Commie veins, you just gotta keep waking up man.
 
Hax0rs said:
Glad to hear you'll be voting for DeSantis.

You've finally come around to seeing how the Dems destroyed cities all throughout 2020. How you elected a guy who cant make a peanut butter sandwich nor tie his own shoes. How the Dems lead a ******** investigation into communication with a foreign adversary, meanwhile Maoist Mi Lee was communicating in back channels with a Chinese general undermining US security.

You doin' good @fishonjazz proud of ya son. I knew there was still some American blood running through those Commie veins, you just gotta keep waking up man.
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You suck at reading. If Desantis is running then that means trump isn't (only one republican will be running in the presidential election in case you didn't know) and that means they I likely won't be voting.
 
fishonjazz said:
You suck at reading. If Desantis is running then that means trump isn't (only one republican will be running in the presidential election in case you didn't know) and that means they I likely won't be voting.
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Oh ****, and here I thought you actually supported America, not China....my bad.
 
Hax0rs said:
Oh ****, and here I thought you actually supported America, not China....my bad.
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I have no problem with china. I have never been there but I'm sure there are plenty of good people living there. I don't recall china ever doing anything to me and can't remember being attacked by their military or anything. They seem to do things different there than we do but I don't just hate things cause they are different.
I prefer America to China but don't see how that matters or has anything to do with voting or not voting for a ****** politician in an electoral college where my vote doesn't matter anyway.
 
fishonjazz said:
I have no problem with china. I have never been there but I'm sure there are plenty of good people living there. I don't recall china ever doing anything to me and can't remember being attacked by their military or anything. They seem to do things different there than we do but I don't just hate things cause they are different.
I prefer America to China but how that it matters or has anything to do with voting or not voting for a ****** politician in an electoral college where my vote doesn't matter anyway.
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Would you like to live under the Chinese system of governance? That's what you're supporting, the CCP.
 
Hax0rs said:
Would you like to live under the Chinese system of governance? That's what you're supporting, the CCP.
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I dont know. Never lived under it before and never taken any classes or anything about chinas government to know one way or the other. I do know that there are millions upon millions of people living in china who have the means to leave yet dont so apparently they like it there.
How am I supporting the CCP by not voting?
 
LogGrad98 said:
I have literally zero hope for our political system. We will get more moronic candidates that pander to their bases. It will end up being 2 old white guys as the major party candidates. We'll again be forced to pick from the lesser of 2 seniles, or the least evil of the 2, or just vote for whoever the Russians want us to through Facebook campaigning.

Yay.
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That’s probable. Good thing the Democratic base is broad and diverse and represents most of America. Biden and his policies are pretty much in line with the country.

The greater issue is Congress. You have a house that is gerrymandered all to hell and a Senate that structurally favors the increasingly out of step with most of America and increasingly illiberal Republican Party. And you have majority Republican legislatures that are now passing into law ways to overturn election results they don’t like.

These two major issues; Congressional structures and state Republican led efforts to overturn elections are far more concerning to me than who is running for president.
 
I think we need to be careful when referring to a political party’s base. For republicans, that’s the radicals. And they’re increasingly deferring to the radicals in their base. There’s a Fox News (attention) and right wing ecosystem that incentivizes extremism. MTG was the top recipient of donations in the first quarter of this year. So there are clearly attention and financial incentivizes on the right that just don’t exist on the left.

For Democrats their base is representative of mainstream America. Unlike Republicans, moderates are in control of their party. There just isn’t a media system or a donor system that awards bomb throwers.
 
fishonjazz said:
I hope trump doesn't run. If that's the case, I won't vote and won't give a ****
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I hope you have more civic virtue than this.

It’s most likely going to be Trump or DeSantis. Both are horrible human beings and would further debase the office. As DeSantis has shown as Governor, he’s not a promoter of democracy. I think he'd be a smoother and smarter Trump; a lethal threat to our democracy.

I’d by far rather have a 100 year old Biden and Democrats who at least attempt to govern the country for all Americans than another 4 years of Republicans:

  • Attempting to overthrow our democracy in favor of an authoritarian dictator.
  • Leaders who merely seek to enrich themselves and their cronies.
  • Demonizing immigrants and people of color.
  • separating families and putting kids in cages.
  • Gassing peaceful protesters and holding bibles upside down.
  • dismissing science and scientists.
  • Replacing good and fair judges with campaign donors and loyalists.
  • Kissing up to dictators while trashing our democratic allies.
  • Attacking the media and threatening to jail political opponents.
  • Blackmailing countries to serve your personal political agenda.
  • Nonstop Misogyny.
Let’s all remember, pandemics and recessions pass. But repairing the damage from a dictator who shreds our democracy can take generations to repair. I hope my future children live in an America that is fairer, smarter, nicer than the America we currently inhabit.
 
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