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I thought Repubs didn’t like inflation? Now they’re cheering it on? Huh, how interesting. Almost like they went Obama I mean Biden to fail. Sorry, I said Obama because I seem to remember this exact same playbook from somewhere before…

 
The blind adherence to party, to the level of ignoring and flat out sanctioning illegal actions that resulted in physical harm, property destruction, and even death, is truly the same path taken by adherents to the Nazi party. The similarities are straight up terrifying. And all it takes is a populace that turns a blind eye to get to the next level. Such a sad state our political system is in right now. Time to clean house and just replace everybody.

same deal here mate. Both sides of politics are abominable
 
same deal here mate. Both sides of politics are abominable
Except here one party has some good ideas and tries to govern but is terrible at politics while the other party no longer cares about truth and lies, has no platform aside from tax cuts to big donors and waging a culture war, and is actively working to destroy democracy so it doesn’t have to win elections to maintain political power.

Both sides aren’t the same.

We see what Christian ethno white nationalism has done to Russia, Poland, Hungary, and Brazil. It’s not a pretty picture. I’d gladly take a liberal party that sucks at politics over the Christian ethno white nationalism that the global right is peddling right now.
 
thank f for the ignore function. Not interested in reading what i'm sure is a "we good, them bad" spewing forth of one sided garbage. This pandemic has shown that both sides of politics at least what i can say for here are atrocious corrupt self interested powermongers
 
I thought Repubs didn’t like inflation? Now they’re cheering it on? Huh, how interesting. Almost like they went Obama I mean Biden to fail. Sorry, I said Obama because I seem to remember this exact same playbook from somewhere before…


Clown putting on a clown show.

Tucker is not a trucker. He couldn't even handle a single shift in a truck stop diner serving tables.

What high comedy would ensue if he tried?
 
thank f for the ignore function. Not interested in reading what i'm sure is a "we good, them bad" spewing forth of one sided garbage. This pandemic has shown that both sides of politics at least what i can say for here are atrocious corrupt self interested powermongers
For those who aren’t intellectually cut off and incurious, here is some interesting reading about the current dangers of this right wing authoritarianism:

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It should be noted that most of these authors aren’t Democrats. They’re actually conservatives who recognize the threat of authoritarianism that is overtaking liberal democracy across Europe and the Americas. You can’t call me biased when I actually cite conservative voices here. I find it interesting that those who accuse me of being biased never ever cite any liberal authors to balance their own biases and dispel notions of their own confirmation bias.
 
Thriller, you are just dishonest. "Most of these authors aren't Democrats, they're actually conservatives...

The Atlantic (A left publication) - https://www.allsides.com/news-source/atlantic, https://libguides.lorainccc.edu/c.php?g=29395&p=183699
Anne Applebaum (Hasn't been a republican for 14 years) - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ld-friends-paved-the-way-for-trump-and-brexit
Tom Nichols (Never Tumper Ex Republican) - https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-never-trump-ex-republican-column/2013614001/
Masha Gessen (Trump Hater - Left Contributor) - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...orse-than-putin-surviving-autocracy-interview
Ruth Ben-Ghiat (Democrat) - https://democraticwoman.org/event/tues-jan-12-ben-ghiat/

So when you say "Most" you mean "None"

Thriller you are biased. There is nothing wrong with being biased, accept it.

Just stop being dishonest!

Here is a liberal author that I will cite, to talk about the importance of "Peaceful" protests...not riots
Masha Gessen (see above) - https://lithub.com/masha-gessen-why-we-must-protest/ - "Peaceful protest is as important a democratic institution as are elections."
 
Thriller, you are just dishonest. "Most of these authors aren't Democrats, they're actually conservatives...

The Atlantic (A left publication) - https://www.allsides.com/news-source/atlantic, https://libguides.lorainccc.edu/c.php?g=29395&p=183699
Anne Applebaum (Hasn't been a republican for 14 years) - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ld-friends-paved-the-way-for-trump-and-brexit
Tom Nichols (Never Tumper Ex Republican) - https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-never-trump-ex-republican-column/2013614001/
Masha Gessen (Trump Hater - Left Contributor) - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...orse-than-putin-surviving-autocracy-interview
Ruth Ben-Ghiat (Democrat) - https://democraticwoman.org/event/tues-jan-12-ben-ghiat/

So when you say "Most" you mean "None"

Thriller you are biased. There is nothing wrong with being biased, accept it.

Just stop being dishonest!

Here is a liberal author that I will cite, to talk about the importance of "Peaceful" protests...not riots
Masha Gessen (see above) - https://lithub.com/masha-gessen-why-we-must-protest/ - "Peaceful protest is as important a democratic institution as are elections."
republican = trump fart sniffer?

sad
 
I thought Repubs didn’t like inflation? Now they’re cheering it on? Huh, how interesting. Almost like they went Obama I mean Biden to fail. Sorry, I said Obama because I seem to remember this exact same playbook from somewhere before…


While nothing in that clip is Republicans cheering inflation on, I will give you credit for appearing to recognize inflation is a thing and it is a problem. It is a long way from 6 weeks ago when you spent a month telling everyone that inflation wasn’t real except for milk and would evaporate entirely by March when people stopped buying as much milk.
So if milk is this month's flavor, why won't inflation concerns evaporate in the next few months too?

If you can come that far in only 6 weeks, who knows what is possible? Maybe 6 weeks from now you’ll be driving the wagon to vote out the cause of all this inflation and replace them with some responsible neoliberal fiscal conservatives to get us back on track.

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Maybe 6 weeks from now you’ll be driving the wagon to vote out the cause of all this inflation and replace them with some responsible neoliberal fiscal conservatives to get us back on track.
You want to vote out incredibly low unemployment levels and the ending of the covid19 pandemic?
 
While nothing in that clip is Republicans cheering inflation on, I will give you credit for appearing to recognize inflation is a thing and it is a problem. It is a long way from 6 weeks ago when you spent a month telling everyone that inflation wasn’t real except for milk and would evaporate entirely by March when people stopped buying as much milk.


If you can come that far in only 6 weeks, who knows what is possible? Maybe 6 weeks from now you’ll be driving the wagon to vote out the cause of all this inflation and replace them with some responsible neoliberal fiscal conservatives to get us back on track.

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Oh weird. Another post that you respond to and @Bucknutz likes immediately. I’m sure you two aren’t the same poster.

It’s funny how you think Biden and the Democrats are the cause for inflation when it’s happening in most industrialized countries everywhere. It’s almost like once a century global pandemic is having a global impact on the global supply chain. And your solution is to re-elect the same folks who bungled the initial Covid response, told us to shoot up lysol and stick flashlights up our butts, and overturn election results will do better? Um. Okay
 
You want to vote out incredibly low unemployment levels and the ending of the covid19 pandemic?
The "incredibly low unemployment levels" are a deceptive statistic meant to hide the damage the Democrats have done to the economy as can been seen in the more holistic labor force participation rate. Sixteen-million jobs that existed before the pandemic are gone. At least it proves false all those who said Biden is a houseplant because a houseplant would have done a better job.
 
I'm willing to bet that every single person on this forum doesn't want high inflation. Challenge me if you do want it, I'll wait.

Some people will definitely cheer for things to go as horrible as they can during this admin to enact the change they want, but I'd also challenge that there were also some egomaniacs who hoped Covid would spiral out of control in 2020 to hurt Trump. In no way is that saying people on this forum, but in general, you get crazies out there that are that small-minded.

It's a shame that third parties simply aren't viable unless they are uber-rich - we're doomed to repeat the good cop/bad cop routine between R's and D's eternally.
 
It's a shame that third parties simply aren't viable unless they are uber-rich - we're doomed to repeat the good cop/bad cop routine between R's and D's eternally.
Even as a prominent third party supporter, the R vs D thing doesn’t worry me nearly as much as the liberal versus progressive thing does. There was an interview between Bill Maher and the great Ira Glasser who headed the ACLU from 1978 through 2001. It was two old school big ‘L’ Liberals talking civil liberties. That is what the American political left used to be. It is that battle between liberals and progressives that liberals are clearly losing I find concerns me so much more.

 
I am not looking forward to 2024 one bit - 2022 is going to be an appetizer and we'll see some sprinkles of 'damn the results, here's what we should do', but 2024 is going to be absolutely unbearable.

I have a hard time seeing it as anything but Biden vs. Trump which is disconcerting - I really think DeSantis wants to give it a go, but it's a very delicate balance of trying to claw power and not upset the establishment.

As a nation, we'd be doing ourselves a disservice between picking between someone who would be 82 years old and someone who will be 78. Ideally, I'd like to see Biden cede the nomination to someone else as an olive branch to the next generation and Trump to simply throw his weight behind other candidates just the same, but it's a fools hope.
 
I'm willing to bet that every single person on this forum doesn't want high inflation. Challenge me if you do want it, I'll wait.

Some people will definitely cheer for things to go as horrible as they can during this admin to enact the change they want, but I'd also challenge that there were also some egomaniacs who hoped Covid would spiral out of control in 2020 to hurt Trump. In no way is that saying people on this forum, but in general, you get crazies out there that are that small-minded.

It's a shame that third parties simply aren't viable unless they are uber-rich - we're doomed to repeat the good cop/bad cop routine between R's and D's eternally.
The structure of the House, Senate, and EC also prevents 3rd parties from being competitive. In a winner take all system that we have, it discourages a plurality of votes. Unlike the parliamentary system that does encourage multiple political parties but also comes with its own cons. If we want to encourage more parties, then it needs to begin at the structural level:

1. Get rid of the EC
2. Use Proportional Representation voting

3. Strengthen political parties with campaign finance reform (as you have suggested)

One of The problems right now is that the two political parties are weak. They aren’t acting as gatekeepers. Super pacs and social media loons wield much more influence than political parties. Example, who has more control over the GOP? Ronna Romney McDaniel or Tucker Carlson?
 
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I am not looking forward to 2024 one bit - 2022 is going to be an appetizer and we'll see some sprinkles of 'damn the results, here's what we should do', but 2024 is going to be absolutely unbearable.

I have a hard time seeing it as anything but Biden vs. Trump which is disconcerting - I really think DeSantis wants to give it a go, but it's a very delicate balance of trying to claw power and not upset the establishment.

As a nation, we'd be doing ourselves a disservice between picking between someone who would be 82 years old and someone who will be 78. Ideally, I'd like to see Biden cede the nomination to someone else as an olive branch to the next generation and Trump to simply throw his weight behind other candidates just the same, but it's a fools hope.
Will it really matter?

Even if Repubs lose, they’ll trash the country so bad that elections will be overturned. We saw what they did on Jan 6. That was just an appetizer for what Bannon, Fox News, and Trump are priming 40 percent of this country for.

The main issue is one political party and its members follow a movement that has become illiberal. It lives in an alt reality that quite frankly rejects the ideas of the enlightenment and wants to restore a hierarchical society where white Christian men rule, even if the majority reject them.

Pat Buchanan really invited this movement in during his 92 convention speech. Gingrich put it into practice. Fox News has kept this culture war and white grievance going. And Obama’s election triggered enough of the population to join this illiberal movement.

Watch that. It applies more today than 1992! Listen to his gripes.
 
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I have a hard time seeing it as anything but Biden vs. Trump which is disconcerting - I really think DeSantis wants to give it a go, but it's a very delicate balance of trying to claw power and not upset the establishment.
We'll see but I'm thinking there is a possibility that neither Donald Trump or Biden win their party's nomination. Biden is just too old and his mental faculties are clearly degrading. I fear the next three years are not going to be kind to him.

As for Trump, I'm not sure he's going to escape a 14th Amendment disqualification. It will be interesting to see what happens with Madison Cawthorn in North Carolina as if successful that same strategy will certainly be used against Trump.

 
We'll see but I'm thinking there is a possibility that neither Donald Trump or Biden win their party's nomination. Biden is just too old and his mental faculties are clearly degrading. I fear the next three years are not going to be kind to him.

As for Trump, I'm not sure he's going to escape a 14th Amendment disqualification. It will be interesting to see what happens with Madison Cawthorn in North Carolina as if successful that same strategy will certainly be used against Trump.

Trump tried multiple times through multiple means to overthrow the 2020 election. That alone should be disqualifying for voters. You cannot entrust our democracy to someone who despises democracy and embraces authoritarianism.
 
The "incredibly low unemployment levels" are a deceptive statistic meant to hide the damage the Democrats have done to the economy as can been seen in the more holistic labor force participation rate. Sixteen-million jobs that existed before the pandemic are gone. At least it proves false all those who said Biden is a houseplant because a houseplant would have done a better job.
I was joking. Biden's been in office barely a year. This is still Trump's economy, to the degree that Presidents affect the economy at all.

However, if you absolutely insist on crediting/blaming Biden for the labor force participation rate, you should probably stop, because it's rising again after a steep drop in early 2020, and you wouldn't want to credit Biden with anything.


Jan 2021: 61.4%
Jan 2022: 62.2%
 
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