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TBH I'm pretty basic.
Is the candidate a complete douchebag scumbag criminal and proven this to me over and over again throughout decades of time by his own actions and court convictions? Is the candidate also unqualified and incompetent?

If yes then that mofo ain't getting my vote.


Pretty basic really.


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No, you're not. You try to look past the sound-bites. That alone puts you above 80% of all voters, imo. Maybe 60% to be generous. Then you actually apply critical thinking as opposed to searching for confirmation bias. That elevates you to the top 10% of voters. You ain't basic fish.
 
No, you're not. You try to look past the sound-bites. That alone puts you above 80% of all voters, imo. Maybe 60% to be generous. Then you actually apply critical thinking as opposed to searching for confirmation bias. That elevates you to the top 10% of voters. You ain't basic fish.
You ain’t basic. You’re a smart dude.
 

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs and the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent in December, according to data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, closing the books on a year of remarkable economic resilience.

The December jobs gain beat expectations from economists, who projected the U.S. to add roughly 170,000 jobs last month, according to consensus estimates.

December also extended the longest stretch the unemployment rate has been below 4 percent since the mid-1960s.

Private sector earnings were also up 0.4 percent, according to the report. The average hourly wage has increased 4.1 percent over the past year, outstripping inflation, which clocked in at 3.1 percent in November.
 
So the gold standard and I had a discussion about electoral voting vs popular vote. During the discussion he said he prefers electoral voting. He also said he hates the two party system and wishes more people would vote for the independent/3rd party candidate.

Well arguably the most successful independent/3rd party candidate of all time is Ross Perot. He got 18.9% of the total votes! 19,743,821 votes! You know how many electoral votes he got in that election? ZERO. Lol. 19,743,821 voters votes were thrown in the trash. Why the hell would anyone ever vote for a candidate who isn't a republican or democrat if we continue to use our current stupid system to determine the winner?

The two parties love the electoral system. If you hate the two party system then you should hate the electoral system of voting.
As I said, no need to tilt at windmills. Changing the law is next to impossible on this, but states can choose to have their electoral votes pro rata. Simplest fix today.

Voting rules in this country come from a complicated past with a populus that feared a lot of things. Many of the founding fathers wanted elected representatives to vote for President, others wanted the people to vote for the President. The debates over this were interesting, and a lof of the discussions had shadows of debates today. Many against popular vote worried about corruption at the polls, which the electoral college helps attenuate (and to me completely neuters any of Trump's argument about fraud).

I could also see a popular vote situation where a radical gets the slim majority vote.

Assassination attempts aside, I like the idea of the losing party candidate becoming VP like they used to do. We need more cooperative government.

And when I talk about a strong 3rd party, I am more referring to Congress, less so President. Our two party system has degraded to having most issues come to a standstill. Very little gets done.
 
Ya it seems like a certain political party wants us to be so far behind the curve on this ****. That might partly explain why we are so far behind the curve on this ****.

From what I remember Obamacare was supposed to be much better for us than it ended up being. Had to be butchered and made much worse in order for the Republicans to allow it.

No Republican voted for Obamacare. I hated it because it was a poor mix. The biggest issue (as we see with many laws) are the strong lobbys. Many Democrats didn't want to piss off their lobbyist donors, and the healthcare industry is strong. No Republican voted for it, but a number of Dems in the house voted against it.

Go true full socialized medicine or nothing. And Dems picked a middle ground that is better in some ways, and much worse in others.

The courts ruled the penalty was unconstitutional, but most of the law remained. It was a poorly thought hodgepodge from the get-go.

The problem now is those on the exchange find it next to impossible to get competent doctors in many areas. These plans have the worst (minimum) reimbursements, so most doctors, which we have a shortage of, so they can choose to be picky, simply don't accept those insurances.

We have the benefit of an influx of good doctors due to better pay/reimbursement. If we match the rest of the world, our doctor shortage will drop even more as fewer will want to take on medical school debt, and more will stay in their home countries. Not saying that should deter us, but it should be well thought out to ensure all facets of impact are considered and design around that for best outcome...
 
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No Republican voted for Obamacare. I hated it because it was a poor mix. The biggest issue (as we see with many laws) are the strong lobbys. Many Democrats didn't want to piss off their lobbyist donors, and the healthcare industry is strong. No Republican voted for it, but a number of Dems in the house voted against it.

Go true full socialized medicine or nothing. And Dems picked a middle ground that is better in some ways, and much worse in others.

The courts ruled the penalty was unconstitutional, but most of the law remained. It was a poorly thought hodgepodge from the get-go.

The problem now is those on the exchange find it next to impossible to get competent doctors in many areas. These plans have the worst (minimum) reimbursements, so most doctors, which we have a shortage of, so they can choose to be picky, simply don't accept those insurances.

We have the benefit of an influx of good doctors due to better pay/reimbursement. If we match the rest of the world, our doctor shortage will drop even more as fewer will want to take on medical school debt, and more will stay in their home countries. Not saying that should deter us, but it should be well thought out to ensure all facets of impact are considered and design around that for best outcome...
Republicans didn’t vote for it because they wanted to make Obama a one term president. This has been well documented. Republicans strung the Obama administration and Senate Democrats along hoping to choke out the clock and kill chances of passing reform. This was deemed as key to preventing Obama a second term. Again, this has been well documented and is key to understanding why the ACA lacks certain provisions. The ACA/Obamacare was actually the Republican version of health care reform, put into practice by Gov Romney in Massachusetts. Meaning, Republcians would support it if it were proposed by politicians with Rs by their names. We see the same stuff happening right now under Biden, where Republcians who voted against infrastructure are taking credit in their districts for infrastructure investments.

Some House Democrats didn’t vote for it because it didn’t include a Medicaid option. Had they included this option, it wouldn’t have passed the Senate Filibuster. The ACA:Obamacare is imperfect but it’s the best we could do considering one political party (still) refuses to help pass health care reform that actually improves anything.
 
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Republicans didn’t vote for it because they wanted to make Obama a one term president. This has been well documented. Republicans strung the Obama administration and Senate Democrats along hoping to choke out the clock and kill chances of passing reform. This was deemed as key to preventing Obama a second term. Again, this has been well documented and is key to understanding why the ACA lacks certain provisions. The ACA/Obamacare was actually the Republican version of health care reform, put into practice by Gov Romney in Massachusetts. Meaning, Republcians would support it if it were proposed by politicians with Rs by their names. We see the same stuff happening right now under Biden, where Republcians who voted against infrastructure are taking credit in their districts for infrastructure investments.

Some House Democrats didn’t vote for it because it didn’t include a Medicaid option. Had they included this option, it wouldn’t have passed the Senate Filibuster. The ACA:Obamacare is imperfect but it’s the best we could do considering one political party (still) refuses to help pass health care reform that actually improves anything.
I worked for the government in DC at the time, and even had the opportunity to present some ideas to Congress from my Department regarding certain proposed laws on benefit protections surrounding the PPACA. I was embroiled in this stuff and Obamacare and similar proposals made me realize how futile it was from the top down trying to make a difference (because both parties already had their positions set in stone) so I left shortly after.

Yes, Obama tried to include Republicans. No House Republicans ever gave any input. Yes, a few Republican Senators initially participated in committee meetings (Kennedy was part of the committee) until McConnell shut them all down. For roughly a year before it was passed, Harry Reid had closed door sessions as it was clear Republicans would not participate. Classic example of our disfunctional government (to be clear, not blaming Reid). So very little Republican fingerprints remained in the final bill. Republicans sued and make changes later in the Tax Act years later, but most of the flaws existed without those changes.

If Al Franken didn't win his seat or Specter had not changed parties, there would have been a filibuster.

As far as Romney, most Republicans hated his state program in Mass. And many of them don't consider him a member of the party. With no offense intended to many here, outside of the Mormonism, my politics are very similar to his, so no knock on him, but he is definitely a different mold than most Rhinos. I think he would have been a great President.

Some of the revisionist history from a few of you folks is mind boggling. You are so embroiled in Red or Blue that it taints you.
 
I worked for the government in DC at the time, and even had the opportunity to present some ideas to Congress from my Department regarding certain proposed laws on benefit protections surrounding the PPACA. I was embroiled in this stuff and Obamacare and similar proposals made me realize how futile it was from the top down trying to make a difference (because both parties already had their positions set in stone) so I left shortly after.

Yes, Obama tried to include Republicans. No House Republicans ever gave any input. Yes, a few Republican Senators initially participated in committee meetings (Kennedy was part of the committee) until McConnell shut them all down. For roughly a year before it was passed, Harry Reid had closed door sessions as it was clear Republicans would not participate. Classic example of our disfunctional government (to be clear, not blaming Reid). So very little Republican fingerprints remained in the final bill. Republicans sued and make changes later in the Tax Act years later, but most of the flaws existed without those changes.

If Al Franken didn't win his seat or Specter had not changed parties, there would have been a filibuster.

As far as Romney, most Republicans hated his state program in Mass. And many of them don't consider him a member of the party. With no offense intended to many here, outside of the Mormonism, my politics are very similar to his, so no knock on him, but he is definitely a different mold than most Rhinos. I think he would have been a great President.

Some of the revisionist history from a few of you folks is mind boggling. You are so embroiled in Red or Blue that it taints you.
Where did you disagree with anything I said? Thanks for essentially repeating my post. Not sure who the revisionist history comment was for.
 

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year.

“We have an economy that’s so fragile, and the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did,” Trump said. “It’s just running off the fumes.”

Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

The U.S. economy, however, has defied economists’ predictions and closed the 2023 year with high marks on a wide range of criteria: Inflation was down, job growth remained high, and the unemployment rate stayed low.

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs in the final month of 2023 and kept the unemployment rate at 3.7 percent, far exceeding the expectations of economists. The annual inflation rate also dropped from 9.1 percent, a four-decade high, in June 2022 to 3.1 percent in November, according to the Labor Department.

“The American people did it,” Yellen said. “The American people go to work every day, participate in the labor market, form new businesses. But President Biden has tried to create incentives that give Americans the tools they need to help this economy grow.”

The Biden campaign responded to Trump’s comments by quoting Biden at a campaign event a few days earlier.

“President Biden three days ago: ‘Donald Trump’s campaign is about him. Not America. Not you,’” the statement read on X, formerly Twitter




So basically trump is rooting for America's economy to crash. He also admits that it's currently doing pretty well but takes the credit for that himself.
ALWAYS A DOUCHE. EVERY TIME

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Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year.

“We have an economy that’s so fragile, and the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did,” Trump said. “It’s just running off the fumes.”

Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

The U.S. economy, however, has defied economists’ predictions and closed the 2023 year with high marks on a wide range of criteria: Inflation was down, job growth remained high, and the unemployment rate stayed low.

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs in the final month of 2023 and kept the unemployment rate at 3.7 percent, far exceeding the expectations of economists. The annual inflation rate also dropped from 9.1 percent, a four-decade high, in June 2022 to 3.1 percent in November, according to the Labor Department.

“The American people did it,” Yellen said. “The American people go to work every day, participate in the labor market, form new businesses. But President Biden has tried to create incentives that give Americans the tools they need to help this economy grow.”

The Biden campaign responded to Trump’s comments by quoting Biden at a campaign event a few days earlier.

“President Biden three days ago: ‘Donald Trump’s campaign is about him. Not America. Not you,’” the statement read on X, formerly Twitter




So basically trump is rooting for America's economy to crash. He also admits that it's currently doing pretty well but takes the credit for that himself.
ALWAYS A DOUCHE. EVERY TIME

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But Fish! You forget! Trump is that hard working blue collar guy who’s fighting for the workin man! He’s not an out of touch elitist. He’s a true American who cares about the poor and forgotten communities and towns. He just wants to make America great again!

I know we’ve done this, but imagine if Obama or Hillary had come out hoping for a recession for Trump. That would’ve been a top news story for weeks on Fox News and Facebook. Yet, most low info cultists will never even know that he said this.
 

Former President Trump said in an interview that aired Monday that he predicts the U.S. economy will crash and that he hopes it does so within the next year.

“We have an economy that’s so fragile, and the only reason it’s running now is it’s running off the fumes of what we did,” Trump said. “It’s just running off the fumes.”

Trump added: “And when there’s a crash — I hope it’s going to be during this next 12 months because I don’t want to be Herbert Hoover. The one president I just don’t want to be, Herbert Hoover.”

The U.S. economy, however, has defied economists’ predictions and closed the 2023 year with high marks on a wide range of criteria: Inflation was down, job growth remained high, and the unemployment rate stayed low.

The U.S. added 216,000 jobs in the final month of 2023 and kept the unemployment rate at 3.7 percent, far exceeding the expectations of economists. The annual inflation rate also dropped from 9.1 percent, a four-decade high, in June 2022 to 3.1 percent in November, according to the Labor Department.

“The American people did it,” Yellen said. “The American people go to work every day, participate in the labor market, form new businesses. But President Biden has tried to create incentives that give Americans the tools they need to help this economy grow.”

The Biden campaign responded to Trump’s comments by quoting Biden at a campaign event a few days earlier.

“President Biden three days ago: ‘Donald Trump’s campaign is about him. Not America. Not you,’” the statement read on X, formerly Twitter




So basically trump is rooting for America's economy to crash. He also admits that it's currently doing pretty well but takes the credit for that himself.
ALWAYS A DOUCHE. EVERY TIME

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I'm sure Trump remembers the Hoover administration because that's how ****ing old he is.
 
It’s just not easy revisioning history. You have to be sure to get most of your facts wrong, and then find a narrative in which to plug in your alternative facts. Takes practice sometimes….


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If you can flood the zone with ****, you create enough confusion that people end up without any sense of reality. We’ve seen this happen with Covid and vaccines, the Big Lie, Jan 6, Russia invading Ukraine, the state of the economy, we’ll see it happen once Biden kicks Trump’s ***. By continuously gaslighting people, the right creates an exhaustion to where people just give up trying to make sense of the world they live in. Nothing is true. Nothing is right or wrong.
 
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If you can flood the zone with ****, you create enough confusion that people end up without any sense of reality. We’ve seen this happen with Covid and vaccines, the Big Lie, Jan 6, Russia invading Ukraine, the state of the economy, we’ll see it happen once Biden kicks Trump’s ***. By continuously gaslighting people, the right creates an exhaustion to where people just give up trying to make sense of the world they live in. Nothing is true. Nothing is right or wrong.
You've mentioned the community of ideas a few times. I'm sorry to tell you but that concept is dead. Studies have been done and false information, scandals, rage bait, lies travel farther, wider, deeper, and faster than the truth does on social media. Truth is at a massive tactical disadvantage and even when it gets there, the party is already over and everyone has gone home with a different partner than the truth. No condoms, no lube, every orifice is fair game. Many false news babies shall be conceived.

We live in the post-truth, post-facts era. Conspiracies rule the day. Conspiracies taste like candy to our brains and facts taste like dry bran flakes. Most people are getting fat on lies.
 
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You've mentioned the community of ideas a few times. I'm sorry to tell you but that concept is dead. Studies have been done and false information, scandals, rage bait, lies travel farther, wider, deeper, and faster than the truth does on social media. Truth is at a massive tactical disadvantage and even when it gets there, the party is already over and everyone has gone home with a different partner than the truth. No condoms, no lube, every orifice is fair game. Many false news babies shall be conceived.

We live in the post-truth, post-facts era. Conspiracies rule the day. Conspiracies taste like candy to our brains and facts taste like dry bran flakes. Most people are getting fat on lies.

Good post.
 
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