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Al-O-Meter said:
That is not true. I have also seen you proclaim your belief that Joe Biden is too old to be doing this job. Long before the debate demonstrated to the world that Biden has pudding for brains, you were prominent in your criticism of his diminished mental faculties and your wish for someone else to step in to beat Trump.
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With all due respect I don't see it. As I pointed out he'll sometimes say he's a liar or old but what about specific policies he's against if he truly does "lean right" like he claims.
 
And I hate using fox news and this technically isn't but it still gets the point across. All I hear about it Trump but the actual Biden administration is sitting here pushing blatant lies and propaganda all while accusing Trump of lying and deep fakes.. This is our actual president. This is the actual people in charge, not Trump. Someone explain how jetlag last 2 weeks? Especially when he was in vacation at Camp David for 6 straight days. If this were Trump we'd hear about it for weeks. But no, these people who claim to be conservative don't say a word. Not one.


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SteakNEggs said:
With all due respect I don't see it. As I pointed out he'll sometimes say he's a liar or old but what about specific policies he's against if he truly does "lean right" like he claims.
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Fair enough, but I do see it, and I’m not sure “right” is the best way to look at things in 2024. It is too vague. I’m not sure that if I were having a conversation with myself from ten years ago that me and me-from-ten-years-ago would agree on what constituted being politically right wing.

Fish is not be toeing the conservative establishment line, but he also doesn’t consistently echo the progressive line. I see Fish as almost a 1990’s Democrat who in 2024 doesn’t have a fondness for either side but definitely has a stronger dislike for one of the sides. I can see how he would come across as being on the political left to some, but I don’t see him that way.
 
SteakNEggs said:
Dude I have read your post for years and we've battled.
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Fish has pretty clearly said that his main beef is with Trump himself not so much the right and has said in not so many words that his vitriol is admittedly sometimes over the top purely because he hates Trump so much. He's pretty consistently said he holds no great love for Biden and thinks he's too old etc and if it wasn't for Trump he probably wouldn't vote for Biden and would be indifferent to politics
 
Yep. I can think a law is inconsequential or unimportant and still think someone should be prosecuted for breaking it.

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SteakNEggs said:
That was the ENTIRE conversation fish. That was the entire basis of what we were talking about. Nothing else. Maybe you didn't realize it but that's literally what I was getting on him about. At the same time you didn't say a word how killing a president was wrong when it fit your agenda yet 24 hours later you're saying it's wrong.
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Nope he mentioned that trump was/is a traitor. I like that he said that

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SteakNEggs said:
With all due respect I don't see it. As I pointed out he'll sometimes say he's a liar or old but what about specific policies he's against if he truly does "lean right" like he claims.
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What policies that trump is all about do I criticize?

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Douchebag K said:
Fish has pretty clearly said that his main beef is with Trump himself not so much the right and has said in not so many words that his vitriol is admittedly sometimes over the top purely because he hates Trump so much. He's pretty consistently said he holds no great love for Biden and thinks he's too old etc and if it wasn't for Trump he probably wouldn't vote for Biden and would be indifferent to politics
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I'm not necessarily arguing that. I'm arguing that Biden is the president and for a right leaning person his main focus is on Trump. That is what I'm arguing. I'm saying you can hate Trump and also hate Biden but what I mostly see is Trump, Trump, Trump. To me, if someone were being middle of the road, they'd have just as much to say about Trump as they would Biden. Outside of me and a select few nobody ever seems to care about the disasters our actual president brings. It always goes back to Trump. I mean, this is the Biden thread and he get's free passes on mostly every stupid thing he does. For example... BIdens own daughter admits she had showers with him that were "more than likely inappropriate" and not one person here says a word. Image the outrage if Ivanka had that in her diary. Now his daughter said people have misunderstood that but c'mon. There's no misunderstanding that Biden had inappropriate showers with his daughter. Or something simple as Biden saying his Uncle was eaten by cannibals in front of the entire world. This is the actual president of our country and people let it slide.

That is what I'm saying. If someone is right leaning they are going to call Biden out too. You can dislike Trump but Biden, not Trump is the guy in charge.
 
fishonjazz said:
Nope he mentioned that trump was/is a traitor. I like that he said that

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So, do you think him saying Trump should be put up against a wall and shot is ok? You seemed to intentionally skip right past those parts.
fishonjazz said:
Yep. I can think a law is inconsequential or unimportant and still think someone should be prosecuted for breaking it.

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So, Biden should be prosecuted for breaking laws or does that only apply to Trump? As I've said, you seem to only push for one to be arrested. Me? I agree with the Supreme Court that Biden has immunity. I don't like it, and know he broke the law, but we can't be opening up pandoras box here and arresting political opponents for whatever laws they conjure up. It baffles me that you guys are ok with that. I was reading how some Republicans wanted to arrest Biden for accessory when an illegal his administration let in raped and killed a 12 year old girl. Do we really want to do this even though his carelessness had a small part in it? I say hell no.
 
I mean... Imagine if Trump wins and in 2 years his 3rd in command of the DoJ leaves to go and prosecute Presidential Candidate Gavin Newsome(that name just for example purposes) for some random crime multiple AG's and even the FEC refused to prosecute. Imagine that DoJ person making the case in a district that was 90% Republican. Imagine the Judge being a legit Trump voter who donated money to Trump campaign and also a campaign literally dedicated to "stopping Newsome" fundraiser. Lets not forget that this Judges own daughter worked for Trump at one point and currently works for very prominent Republican candidates.

@fishonjazz you know damn well you and all others here would be calling Trump every name in the book. Even Trumps worst enemies, people like Andrew Cuomo, says the entire thing is a fraud. Sadly I don't think you will admit it but I guarantee you that if the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be angry. Keep in mind this guy below HATES Trump. But here he is being 100% honest.

Cuomo: Trump NY hush money case ‘should have never been brought’​


Former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) suggested Friday that the New York hush money case against former President Trump was only brought forward because of his name and White House bid.

Cuomo, in an interview Friday on HBO’s “Real Time with Bill Maher,” argued that the case should have “never” been brought forward.

“If his name was not Donald Trump and if he wasn’t running for president … I’m the former AG of in New York, [and] I’m telling you that case would’ve never been brought.”
 
SteakNEggs said:
So, do you think him saying Trump should be put up against a wall and shot is ok? You seemed to intentionally skip right past those parts.

So, Biden should be prosecuted for breaking laws or does that only apply to Trump? As I've said, you seem to only push for one to be arrested. Me? I agree with the Supreme Court that Biden has immunity. I don't like it, and know he broke the law, but we can't be opening up pandoras box here and arresting political opponents for whatever laws they conjure up. It baffles me that you guys are ok with that. I was reading how some Republicans wanted to arrest Biden for accessory when an illegal his administration let in raped and killed a 12 year old girl. Do we really want to do this even though his carelessness had a small part in it? I say hell no.
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You are the worst. I'm only going to say this once more and then I'm done talking to you again for awhile (its exhausting)
I think that if Biden committed a crime then he should be prosecuted even if the crime he committed isn't one that I care about. I have said this over and over and over.

I don't think trump should be put up against a wall and shot.

With that, I'm done with you.

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fishonjazz said:
You are the worst. I'm only going to say this once more and then I'm done talking to you again for awhile (its exhausting)
I think that if Biden committed a crime then he should be prosecuted even if the crime he committed isn't one that I care about. I have said this over and over and over.

I don't think trump should be put up against a wall and shot.

With that, I'm done with you.

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See now you get all bitchy as always when I'm simply asking you a question with no harm intended. You're equally exhausting as it seems you actually care to debate then run away. Every time.
 
SteakNEggs said:
See now you get all bitchy as always when I'm simply asking you a question with no harm intended. You're equally exhausting as it seems you actually care to debate then run away. Every time.
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I think he has answered your questions multiple times. It’s getting to be borderline harassment. You just won’t accept his answers and I think most people reading this thread is exhausted from your continued nagging posts.

Enjoy the 4th with family and friends! Life in America is amazing and appreciate it today!
 
Bucknutz said:
I think he has answered your questions multiple times. It’s getting to be borderline harassment. You just won’t accept his answers and I think most people reading this thread is exhausted from your continued nagging posts.

Enjoy the 4th with family and friends! Life in America is amazing and appreciate it today!
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And I think calling people cultist every single day is harassment and bigoted. Do you think that's welcoming? Do you think that's not hateful and unnecessary? Are you a cultist because you vote differently? Funny how you gloss past that harassment. It's ok for fan favorite fish ...That's not borderline harassment to me that is direct harassment. You're completely ok with fish being hostile... Keep in mind I literally had to change my handle because fish used to stock me around the forum even to the Jazz forum and be a dick. Literally talking Jazz and he would follow me around and harass me... Honest to my grandmothers grave...Imagine talking Jazz and a guy following you around insinuating you're racist and a cultist for no reason. I didn't see you around there but maybe you don't understand there's another side to this story.

If someone is going to call me a cultist and compare me to some terrible people like Nazis I feel I have a right to showcase their checkered past. If theyre going to judge me, who hurts no one I'm going point out how they have done worse things than I have. Of course you're ok with fish spewing venom but it's harassment when someone pushes back. Hell I even DM'd you about 20 post of fish mocking me first while I was taking politics and you didn't say a word. Of course you didn't respond like you won't here

And say what you want but the conversation was about the double standards. Before yesterday he never once said Biden should be arrested. I had to yank it out of him. That was my intention and it worked. You may not like it but I don't care. That was the conversation how every little thing Trump does he whines about but let's it slide with Biden though being right leaning.
 
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I always found it funny how right wing media always talked about how far gone Biden was and then the next day talk about how trump needs to be worried because Biden is good at debating and Biden is also the leader and criminal mastermind of a long time crime family that no one can catch and prosecute.

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fishonjazz said:
I always found it funny how right wing media always talked about how far gone Biden was and then the next day talk about how trump needs to be worried because Biden is good at debating and Biden is also the leader and criminal mastermind of a long time crime family that no one can catch and prosecute.

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Nobody ever said Biden was good at debating. Wtf are you talking about lol? You're just pulling **** out of your butt on that lie. Dementia Joe has been prominent since before you voted for him in the right wing media. I mean this is the dude who said his Uncle was eaten by cannibals and you didn't say a word because you were brainwashed that it was a deep fake by CNN you constantly quote. Right wing media was excited for the debate even though your hero that prosecutes presidents needed very strict structure.

And jfc Fish. Biden was a much smarter before his dementia hit and he was getting money from Russia China and Ukraine. You simply don't give a **** about his crimes and flat out lie that he should be in jail. Pathologically lie. Let's not forget that Bidens own DoJ is illegally defying subpoenas in handing over evidence of Bidens crime. A crime even his DoJ says he may have committed but he's too stupid to stay on trial..

But fish cares about crimes. Sweeps Bidens under the rug but he cares. He's a man of his word.(Sarcasm... He's not)
 
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