CONAN
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What if I don't?
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DutchJazzer
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then i will fight you.
you can dance like silva, while i show you what fighting is.
on a serious note
also i wish bonnar would do something like vitor did to bones. bones starting the fight on the ground vitor headkicked him(missing though)
i was so hopping for bonnar to krav maga kick silva square in his tiny balls. it was the perfect position. if he only knew the km kick technique. silva would not see it comming
kick him in the balls. then while he is crying on the ground head stomp his *** and than just walk out the octagon.
bonnar is retiring anyway. so why not go out like zidane
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squareinthecircle
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^^ Awesome
DutchJazzer
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only problem is when and if he did thatand needed to go to the locker room there would be about 16000 angry savage Brazilians waiting.
and if you though the detroit pistons/indiana pacers brawl was bad.
this would have been worse.
and after silva would have gathered himself he would take the mc while the rioting is going on talk like michael jackson with his faygellah female voice trying to calm down the angry savages
CONAN
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I mean comon he took the fight to help the card. Moving up weight to help the card. Fighting a guy beneath him to help the card. Not knocking the guy out in 10 seconds to help the card. Given all that he still dispatched the guy in the first round. I believe it was the fastest fight of the night. Oh no! He danced around for like 30 seconds.
"Holy hell the sky is falling he sucks balls!!! And screw anyone that thinks that is entertaining. Go watch something else. I am supreme toughguy UFC nazi!!!!!"
"Holy hell the sky is falling he sucks balls!!! And screw anyone that thinks that is entertaining. Go watch something else. I am supreme toughguy UFC nazi!!!!!"
DutchJazzer
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the guy silva is also a punk. just like jones.
silva is scared for taking fights. he does not fight that often for a reason.
for heck sakes just like jones not wanting to fight sonnen.
seriously just take the damm fight thats what your paid for
to fight. yet you got jones ans silva scared to figth often/certain people. and when they fight they goof around like silva dancing or standing against the fence.
or jones doing some grounded starting stance
CONAN
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I disagree to an extent. I would rather they have the attitude of wanting to fight anyone. But I wouldn't say at any cost and take on all challengers. As both Jones and Silva has shown, there isn't much for talent beneath them I don't blame them for not wanting to fight fights where they have nothing to gain but another chump beaten down.
As far as fighting each other, I'd like to see more of them wanting that (with GSP in the mix). But it's similar to Pacman/Mayweather. If you are going to fight the mega-fight you want to win. And to win you want to do things that help your cause. For example, fighting at your prefered weight.
And you're off on Jones. He fights quite often (some say too often). And Silva was not scheduled to fight but volunteered for 153.
As far as fighting each other, I'd like to see more of them wanting that (with GSP in the mix). But it's similar to Pacman/Mayweather. If you are going to fight the mega-fight you want to win. And to win you want to do things that help your cause. For example, fighting at your prefered weight.
And you're off on Jones. He fights quite often (some say too often). And Silva was not scheduled to fight but volunteered for 153.
DutchJazzer
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CONAN;406824 And you're off on Jones. He fights quite often (some say too often). And Silva was not scheduled to fight but volunteered for 153.[/QUOTE said:
DutchJazzer
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i'd take clay guida any day.
but i gotta say his last fight he was also dancing around like silva, it only didn't resulted in a win.
it was very unguida like, but i heard it was part of the gameplan his trainers gave him. good thing he lost vs gray maynard.
but i gotta say his last fight he was also dancing around like silva, it only didn't resulted in a win.
it was very unguida like, but i heard it was part of the gameplan his trainers gave him. good thing he lost vs gray maynard.
DutchJazzer
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why imho guida brought it every single fight he'd just go and fight sure he has strange head movement. but he isnt dancing around like silva did for 5 rounds(ooh wiat last fight he did that).
it is just about "dancing" or "movement".
guida doesnt disrepsect his opponents imho with his "movement"
while silva does this all respect facade and **** outside the cotagon but he si the most disrepsecting to his opponents inside the octagon
Then you're not a true champion, in my humble opinion. A champion takes on any and all comers, no questions asked. If you think you're the best in the world, then prove it. If you lose one of those gimme fights, ala GSP vs. Serra, you'll likely get a rematch in which you can obliterate that person and reclaim your throne. Dodging fights is pathetic.
Please tell me that this is a fact, and not something that you're just hoping happens.
Guida is in my top 5 most hated tools in all of sports.
CONAN
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No, that's dumb. I can understand taking on legit contenders but not just any moron who decides they are the next best thing.
If that were the case, then ya, that's dumb. I can't call Dana White tomorrow and set up a fight with Silva (Silva's lucky). But when that little turd, Joe Silva I think his name is, th guy that makes the matches calls you and says, "Hey Anderson, "So and So" has won five in a row and you're fighting him next." then that is that. As a champion, you can't say, "Um, no. He's not up to my standard." or "Sorry, we're friends and I refuse to fight him." -- see what I'm saying? To be the best you have to constantly be looking to fight the best, not just picking and choosing your battles once you're on top.
CONAN
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I agree with that but that's not what you said. You said ". . . takes on any and all comers . . .". So thanks for clarifying.
And I don't know that I'd call it dodging someone when they suck and Silva knows he can beat them easy. That guy trains as hard as anyone. Why waste that time on some chump he can finish in 10 seconds? Why do you think he messes around so much in the ring? It's cuz he's bored and I don't blame him. His competition sucks. So what if he wants to entertain a little and mess around. So what if people don't like it then knock his @#!*% out. Until then he can fight however he wants.
No question I'd like to see him angle for better fighters. But that doesn't mean he should jump weight classes randomly (GSP, Jones). There has to be give and take.
And also I don't like the "I won't fight my friend" thing. I think when you get into this business you have to sacrifice that for the good of the sport. Complete BS.
I think guys like Silva and Jones will fight any decent competitor within their class. But why should they risk fighting each other if they have to compromise their ideal weight? That plays a part.
But let's be realistic. Currently they make more money apart than together. The key to these super fights is always money and Dana knows that. So he has to pony up major cash to make this happen. And he will and it will happen and I think fans will like it and pay money and then you'll see more and more superfights like Jones/Silva, GSP/Silva, Jones/Dos Santos and so forth.
Because the loser of these superfights loses star power and that's where their money is made.
And then when the classes get some depth this issue will go away. But for now, it's a business dominated by an elite group of top dogs.
And I don't know that I'd call it dodging someone when they suck and Silva knows he can beat them easy. That guy trains as hard as anyone. Why waste that time on some chump he can finish in 10 seconds? Why do you think he messes around so much in the ring? It's cuz he's bored and I don't blame him. His competition sucks. So what if he wants to entertain a little and mess around. So what if people don't like it then knock his @#!*% out. Until then he can fight however he wants.
No question I'd like to see him angle for better fighters. But that doesn't mean he should jump weight classes randomly (GSP, Jones). There has to be give and take.
And also I don't like the "I won't fight my friend" thing. I think when you get into this business you have to sacrifice that for the good of the sport. Complete BS.
I think guys like Silva and Jones will fight any decent competitor within their class. But why should they risk fighting each other if they have to compromise their ideal weight? That plays a part.
But let's be realistic. Currently they make more money apart than together. The key to these super fights is always money and Dana knows that. So he has to pony up major cash to make this happen. And he will and it will happen and I think fans will like it and pay money and then you'll see more and more superfights like Jones/Silva, GSP/Silva, Jones/Dos Santos and so forth.
Because the loser of these superfights loses star power and that's where their money is made.
And then when the classes get some depth this issue will go away. But for now, it's a business dominated by an elite group of top dogs.
Good points. I, for one, can't wait to see Silva and GSP go at it. Rumor has it that if GSP beats Condit, that's the next fight and it will be a catch weight at 190. But I really want Condit to win, so I'm torn.