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The Thriller said:
I’m sorry but I’m old enough to remember a time when prominent politicians and those close to them avoided racist hate speech.

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'Repopulate with Syrian and Somalian refugees' is the language of white supremacists. Don Jr acts as a surrogate of the President--there is no excuse for this type of evil ****.
 
Nov 6th just can't get here fast enough.

Either I'm going to breathe a sigh of relief and know that the real US responded or I'm going to basically give up on this place as any kind example of freedom and democracy.
 
One Brow said:
Our southern border is not particularly porous now, compared with the our Canadian border, or the Afghani-Pakistani border, as examples. Long land borders will always allow determined people to find a way to cross them. Having a wall won't change that.
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The most porous borders are at American airports.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The most porous borders are at American airports.
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What if we build the wall... at airports?

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Bulletproof said:
Nov 6th just can't get here fast enough.

Either I'm going to breathe a sigh of relief and know that the real US responded or I'm going to basically give up on this place as any kind example of freedom and democracy.
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Freedom and democracy have us trump. You and I may not like it but it’s true. It’s fact. Cold, hard fact.

Despite the ramblings of a douche and the cheers of his followers democracy is just fine. Or did I miss the passing of a law banning free speech, religion, assembly...

Don’t get me wrong. His migrant stance is dumb, I think he’s sexist, he’s clearly playing with a half full deck... but democracy in America is stronger than currently being given credit.
 
Stoked said:
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Freedom and democracy have us trump. You and I may not like it but it’s true. It’s fact. Cold, hard fact.

Despite the ramblings of a douche and the cheers of his followers democracy is just fine. Or did I miss the passing of a law banning free speech, religion, assembly...

Don’t get me wrong. His migrant stance is dumb, I think he’s sexist, he’s clearly playing with a half full deck... but democracy in America is stronger than currently being given credit.
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I said "any kind of example"
 
Stoked said:
Freedom and democracy have us trump. You and I may not like it but it’s true. It’s fact. Cold, hard fact.
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The Founders of the US distrusted having too much democracy, because there have always been Trumps, and there always will be.
 
One Brow said:
The Founders of the US distrusted having too much democracy, because there have always been Trumps, and there always will be.
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Furthermore, I don’t see how anyone can see the current political state and call it healthy. Trump is openly calling for his supporters to intimidate and be violent with others. Project Veritas right now is attempting to smear several candidates through the sleazy videos they splice and create. And a few Trump supporters got caught just this past week attempting to smear Robert Mueller.

When democrats take over the house, do we really expect the civility situation to improve? Once Mueller starts handing out indictments, once the house begins to actually hold Trump accountable, once (Trump) republicans begin to lose, do we really think things will get better?

Trump isn’t going to go down quietly. I’d expect some Mueller indictments (Roger Stone would be my guess) and Adam schiff is going to start investigating Trump in the House, and Trump is going to become more desperate and more angry. The political climate is going to get nastier until the GOP is wiped out for a term. His followers will complain louder about fake news and elitists. Then, and only then, can moderate republicans emerge and forge a more civil path away from Trumpism/Fascism.

Perfect example of what I’m talking about. This’ll get lost in the shuffle of all the other Trump related crap this week. But this message will be heard by some of his crazies:

 
This isn’t a good sign of a healthy democracy. Complete conflict of interest.

But in the age of Trump, anything goes! Winning is all that matters.

 
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The Thriller said:
Perfect example of what I’m talking about. This’ll get lost in the shuffle of all the other Trump related crap this week. But this message will be heard by some of his crazies:
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If you have not seen this as yet, this is an in depth and major study by the New York Times which documents the extent to which American law enforcement has ignored for decades the growth of white nationalism in this country, and at times has actually aided or looked the other way where white nationalist violence is concerned. It seems police have focused more on Antifa then white nationalists during recent confrontations, so if that is what the president wants, it's already the case:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/magazine/FBI-charlottesville-white-nationalism-far-right.html
 
I feel bad for the service members who have to spend Thanksgiving in tents on the border and who can't even go out to eat at Whataburger because Donald is using them as stage props.

You'd think abandoning the military in Paris and at Arlington because of a few drops of rain would be career suicide. All well. At least he didn't salute with coffee or wear a tan jacket. That would've been really disrespectful.
 
The more I think about this, the more I want to see the foreigner-runs-a-gas-station stereotype. Foreign workers becoming entrepreneurs, opening their own businesses here. Set up a system... they'll pay their taxes better than most naturalized citizens anyway.

And on the day to day basis, we may have a communication issue. But at least it's not some self made man's kid that doesn't want to be working but will be kicked out if they don't have a job. (Live in Herriman; My God these pricks are the bane of my existence)
 
Harambe said:
The more I think about this, the more I want to see the foreigner-runs-a-gas-station stereotype. Foreign workers becoming entrepreneurs, opening their own businesses here. Set up a system... they'll pay their taxes better than most naturalized citizens anyway.
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So we needed troops at the border before the election and while the caravan is thousands of miles away yet we don’t need the troops once the caravan comes closer? Lol

 
Red said:
Regarding the judicial ruling that the Trump administration cannot deny asylum applications to people who enter illegally, and which caused Trump to refer to "an Obama judge", Chief Justice Roberts has slammed Trump for his remark:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...berts-slams-trump-comment-about-obama-n939016

https://www.mediaite.com/online/joh...buking-trump-extraordinary-and-unprecedented/
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And right on cue the attacks on the judiciary.

https://amp.businessinsider.com/tru...d-death-if-us-court-stays-independent-2018-11
 
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