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The US Secretary of the Interior is so impressed by the recent announcement that scientists have used “de-extinction” to bring back the long extinct Dire Wolf, that he wants to eliminate the Endangered Species Act altogether: we can just bring them back to life!


The Trump administration wants to forgo endangered species protections—and is hinging its argument on a wild vision of the future straight out of a science fiction novel.

This week, a biotechnology company claimed to have brought back the long-extinct dire wolf using new gene editing technology, and the breakthrough has Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum thinking outside of the box.
Why protect endangered species, he argued, when you can use “innovation” to simply bring them back from the dead?

On Monday, Time magazine published a revelatory report detailing Colossal Biosciences’ supposed successful bid to create three dire wolf puppies through gene editing. The Dallas-based company has named the pups Romulus, Remus, and Khaleesi, and have touted their future aspirations to bring back versions, not exact replicas, of other long-extinct animals like the dodo and the mammoth.
Their efforts did not go unnoticed by Burgum, who cited the claimed revival of the species that went extinct over 10,000 years ago as proof that “it has been innovation — not regulation — that has spawned American greatness.”

The Department of the Interior is excited about the potential of ‘de-extinction’ technology and how it may serve broader purposes beyond the recovery of lost species, including strengthening biodiversity protection efforts and helping endangered or at-risk species,” Burgum wrote in an X post Monday.
“The Endangered Species List has become like the Hotel California: once a species enters, they never leave … This is because the status quo is focused on regulation more than innovation,” he continued. “It’s time to fundamentally change how we think about species conservation. Going forward, we must celebrate removals from the endangered list - not additions. The only thing we’d like to see go extinct is the need for an endangered species list to exist.

“We need to continue improving recovery efforts to make that a reality, and the marvel of ‘de-extinction’ technology can help forge a future where populations are never at risk,” he added.




The Secretary of the Interior is wrong:




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The problem with the Secretary’s conclusion is that scientists did not de-extinct the Dire Wolf. They are not actually Dire Wolves at all, and science has not de-extincted any species:




So, the Interior Secretary is full of it. Leave the Endangered Species Act alone. We are undergoing the 6th great extinction event in the history of life on Earth.
 
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The US Secretary of the Interior is so impressed by the recent announcement that scientists have used “de-extinction” to bring back the long extinct Dire Wolf, that he wants to eliminate the Endangered Species Act altogether: we can just bring them back to life!


The Trump administration wants to forgo endangered species protections—and is hinging its argument on a wild vision of the future straight out of a science fiction novel.

This week, a biotechnology company claimed to have brought back the long-extinct dire wolf using new gene editing technology, and the breakthrough has Secretary of the Interior Doug Burgum thinking outside of the box.
Why protect endangered species, he argued, when you can use “innovation” to simply bring them back from the dead?

On Monday, Time magazine published a revelatory report detailing Colossal Biosciences’ supposed successful bid to create three dire wolf puppies through gene editing. The Dallas-based company has named the pups Romulus, Remus, and Khaleesi, and have touted their future aspirations to bring back versions, not exact replicas, of other long-extinct animals like the dodo and the mammoth.
Their efforts did not go unnoticed by Burgum, who cited the claimed revival of the species that went extinct over 10,000 years ago as proof that “it has been innovation — not regulation — that has spawned American greatness.”

The Department of the Interior is excited about the potential of ‘de-extinction’ technology and how it may serve broader purposes beyond the recovery of lost species, including strengthening biodiversity protection efforts and helping endangered or at-risk species,” Burgum wrote in an X post Monday.
“The Endangered Species List has become like the Hotel California: once a species enters, they never leave … This is because the status quo is focused on regulation more than innovation,” he continued. “It’s time to fundamentally change how we think about species conservation. Going forward, we must celebrate removals from the endangered list - not additions. The only thing we’d like to see go extinct is the need for an endangered species list to exist.

“We need to continue improving recovery efforts to make that a reality, and the marvel of ‘de-extinction’ technology can help forge a future where populations are never at risk,” he added.




The Secretary of the Interior is wrong:




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The problem with the Secretary’s conclusion is that scientists did not de-extinct the Dire Wolf. They are not actually Dire Wolves at all, and science has not de-extincted any species:




So, the Interior Secretary is full of it. Leave the Endangered Species Act alone. We are undergoing the 6th great extinction event in the history of life on Earth.


Aren't they lovely little puppies? I reckon they'd make a great pet and would be slightly less vicious than my cat. Little bitch woke me up this morning by bitch slapping me in bed.
 
I would push back somewhat. It’s well established that climate change is happening and it’s measurable in the instrumental and proxy records. But I think there is a reasonable debate about what we should do about it. Most technological solutions I would argue are scams born out of the ZIRP era gold rush.
 
Climate change is the biggest and most expensive scam ever done.

I’m in New England, and it’s fairly easy to see a couple of effects rendered by climate change. The lobster industry is not as big, here in RI, as it is in Maine, but it’s declining in both states. In RI, lobsters can only be found in the very deepest waters of our bays, because that’s where the cold water is, and lobsters need cold water. In Maine, lobsters are migrating north, to colder Canadian waters. The industry is suffereing everywhere on the New England coast, caused by climate change.

The city of Newport, at the entrance to Narragansett Bay, has one of the largest and best preserved colonial districts in the United States. It’s a large neighborhood, all 17th and 18th century homes. By the end of the century, it will no longer exist. It will be completely underwater. Efforts are being made to save individual historic structures, but there is only so much that can be done. Hate to lose such an historically important colonial city. We’re not an old nation, it will be a shame. Sea level rise is another effect of climate change.

AI Overview
Yes, due to warming waters, cold-water species like lobsters are indeed moving northwards in New England, particularly in the Gulf of Maine. This shift is driven by increasing sea surface temperatures, pushing lobsters and other cold-water species towards cooler, more hospitable habitats further north.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Warming Waters:
    The Gulf of Maine is warming faster than most of the world's oceans, impacting the marine ecosystem.

  • Lobster Migration:
    Lobsters, being cold-water creatures, are relocating north in search of cooler temperatures, moving into the waters off Maine and other northern regions according to The Florida Times-Union.

  • Impact on Fishing:
    This shift is causing problems for fishermen, as they need to travel further north to find lobster populations, which can be more dangerous and costly.

  • Other Cold-Water Species:
    Along with lobsters, other cold-water species like cod are also experiencing a northward migration as the Gulf of Maine warms….

Of course, warming waters, much further south, in the Gulf of Mexico, are the very reason hurricanes become Category 4 or 5 in record time. Gulf waters above even 90 degrees will strengthen hurricanes. We saw it happen twice in 2024. And that’s climate change…..
 
I’m in New England, and it’s fairly easy to see a couple of effects rendered by climate change. The lobster industry is not as big, here in RI, as it is in Maine, but it’s declining in both states. In RI, lobsters can only be found in the very deepest waters of our bays, because that’s where the cold water is, and lobsters need cold water. In Maine, lobsters are migrating north, to colder Canadian waters. The industry is suffereing everywhere on the New England coast, caused by climate change.

The city of Newport, at the entrance to Narragansett Bay, has one of the largest and best preserved colonial districts in the United States. It’s a large neighborhood, all 17th and 18th century homes. By the end of the century, it will no longer exist. It will be completely underwater. Efforts are being made to save individual historic structures, but there is only so much that can be done. Hate to lose such an historically important colonial city. We’re not an old nation, it will be a shame. Sea level rise is another effect of climate change.

AI Overview
Yes, due to warming waters, cold-water species like lobsters are indeed moving northwards in New England, particularly in the Gulf of Maine. This shift is driven by increasing sea surface temperatures, pushing lobsters and other cold-water species towards cooler, more hospitable habitats further north.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
  • Warming Waters:
    The Gulf of Maine is warming faster than most of the world's oceans, impacting the marine ecosystem.

  • Lobster Migration:
    Lobsters, being cold-water creatures, are relocating north in search of cooler temperatures, moving into the waters off Maine and other northern regions according to The Florida Times-Union.

  • Impact on Fishing:
    This shift is causing problems for fishermen, as they need to travel further north to find lobster populations, which can be more dangerous and costly.

  • Other Cold-Water Species:
    Along with lobsters, other cold-water species like cod are also experiencing a northward migration as the Gulf of Maine warms….

Of course, warming waters, much further south, in the Gulf of Mexico, are the very reason hurricanes become Category 4 or 5 in record time. Gulf waters above even 90 degrees will strengthen hurricanes. We saw it happen twice in 2024. And that’s climate change…..
Agreed. Now the awkward question: what if the economic trade offs of using fossil fuels are worth it?
 
Lobster migrating north may be affecting that small area but the global impact of the climate change hoax is so much worse.

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Definitely agree it’s a deeply politicized issue. I also agree there is a huge profit motive behind it by VCs, the consultant class, and politicians (as are there others who have environmental best interests at heart).

Point forward it’s going to be harder to profit from it without solid evidence of working technologies and cash flow. Interest rates are destroying funding for speculative technologies and I don’t see that changing soon unless we have a recession.
 
What a mess in Spain. Looking like first major black out due to intermittency of renewable reliant grid.
Which begs the question, what would a blackout be like if the non renewable energy where to be used up? Infinite blackout?
 
Which begs the question, what would a blackout be like if the non renewable energy where to be used up? Infinite blackout?
I think you could build a robust electrical grid with nuclear baseload and renewable peakers with some natural gas backup. As currently designed, removing fossil fuels would send us to the Stone Age.
 
I think you could build a robust electrical grid with nuclear baseload and renewable peakers with some natural gas backup. As currently designed, removing fossil fuels would send us to the Stone Age.
Good thing there is and has been no plan to remove fossil fuels then. Phew!
 
I think you could build a robust electrical grid with nuclear baseload and renewable peakers with some natural gas backup. As currently designed, removing fossil fuels would send us to the Stone Age.
I'm all for the development of nuclear energy.

Much cleaner, more efficient, infinitely safer today than a few decades ago.
 
A series of interruptions to the nationwide electrical service of Cuba occurred during the months of February, March, October and December 2024. The blackouts began in February 2024 with power outages that affected nearly half of the country. In March, further blackouts caused widespread protests. On 5–6 October, a third of the country experienced outages. From 18 to 22 October 2024, a total nationwide blackout occurred due to the failure of the Antonio Guiteras Power Plant. The blackouts were the most severe living crisis that the country has experienced since the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991.
 
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