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The evidence continues to grow, allmost to rapidly

As somebody that is very critical of Burke, I just don't see the point of trading him right now.

As most of you have said, the value we would get back wouldn't be worth it at all.

Also, we are what, 7 games into the season and declaring Exum ready to handle a starting role? I've been blown away, seriously, at how well Exum has played to start but I think a lot of that can be attributed to the role he has been put it. It is absolutely perfect for him to ease into the NBA this way. I'm not for throwing him to the wolves for many reasons but mainly because we haven't seen how he handles having his confidence shaken yet.

I think I've seen enough of Burke to know he isn't in a shooting slump, he just can't shoot, but that can change. He is 21. Too early to give up on him.
 
sojodave said:
Exum has played well, but there is no way he's ready to play over 25 minutes a game. He doesn't have the stamina nor the experience. Quin has to either fix Trey or DL has to trade him for a starting point. Kanter and Burke for Monroe and DJ Augustine.
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Ummm no

MDAV28 said:
As somebody that is very critical of Burke, I just don't see the point of trading him right now.

As most of you have said, the value we would get back wouldn't be worth it at all.

Also, we are what, 7 games into the season and declaring Exum ready to handle a starting role? I've been blown away, seriously, at how well Exum has played to start but I think a lot of that can be attributed to the role he has been put it. It is absolutely perfect for him to ease into the NBA this way. I'm not for throwing him to the wolves for many reasons but mainly because we haven't seen how he handles having his confidence shaken yet.

I think I've seen enough of Burke to know he isn't in a shooting slump, he just can't shoot, but that can change. He is 21. Too early to give up on him.
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I'm ready to trade Trey as soon as someone else wants him. He is the only dude on our team that I think has an attitude problem. I'm afraid that TB may be contagious. Not worth it.

Some possible future homes of Burke
Kings
Bulls
Lakers (if they had anything to trade)
 
yamers said:
his shot is just not falling AT ALL.....

really have no clue what is going on with burke and I really like burke.
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And his man is moving too much when he tries to play defense.

Sometimes you just can't control everything.
 
orangello said:
I would have agreed with you back in October.
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Me too.
Exum has now played 25, 27 and 21 minutes in his last three games. I don't think we need a starter; Exum is going to eventually be given that role. But we do need an experienced PG who could split minutes with Dante, and start if needed. Utah is thin right now at PG. Is Clark the 3rd PG? I'd hate to see either Burke or Exum miss a game and see Clark or Burks play PG for extended minutes.
 
orangello said:
Count me as someone who was not and got torched for it.
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And before I get torched again because I wanted Schroder, read this:

"@AlexKennedyNBA: Dennis Schroder is currently leading the NBA in PER (35.86) by averaging 7.8 points (.733 FG%) and 1.8 steals in 11.5 minutes per game."
 
orangello said:
Count me as someone who was not and got torched for it.
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I had two scenarios, IIRC. One was to draft Adams and then trade up to get Schroder. The other was to trade back for Schroder and take Gobert at #21. As it turns out, the first scenario was unrealistic as Adams was off the board. I also think the Jazz may have wanted Olynyk but knew he was likely going to be picked at #13 when they made their deal to move up. Have to confess I'm no PG_AB, though. Gobert was on my radar after the Jazz started talking about a great international prospect that everyone else was "sleeping on." It was pretty easy after that to identify Rudy as that guy and learn more about him.

I will say I was very happy Utah got Burke, who I viewed as a much better player than Schroder and then also got Gobert. I really had no strong feelings about Trey vs MCW. And really don't right now, either. Maybe MCW has increased his range, but he was even worse than Trey on 3's last season.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I had two scenarios, IIRC. One was to draft Adams and then trade up to get Schroder. The other was to trade back for Schroder and take Gobert. As it turns out, the first scenario was unrealistic as Adams was off the board. I think the Jazz wanted Olynyk but knew he was likely going to be picked at #13 when they made their deal to move up. Have to confess I'm no PG_AB. Gobert was on my radar after the Jazz started talking about a great international prospect that everyone else was "sleeping on." It was pretty easy after that to identify Rudy as that guy and learn more about him.
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I was hoping for Schroder and Gobert. The Jazz were 1 for 2 in the draft for me.

This last draft I was hoping for Exum and McDaniels. Again, the Jazz were 1 for 2 in the draft. McDaniels has the potential to be a 3 and D and even more. His athleticism is off the charts and so are his defensive instincts.

I like Hood and all but I think that McDaniels would have been a better longterm addition for this team.
 
Stifle Tower said:
^^
McDaniels is off to a good start.
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Yes he is. Imagine Exum, Hayward, McDaniels, Favors and (whoever you prefer) as the starters.

Exum and Hayward will keep the offense in tact. Defensively, McDaniels and Favors take the best wing and big man. That seems like a solid starting until to me.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Oh, his shot is falling all right; it's falling short just as it did all last season. I'm not sure where anyone ever got the idea Burke could shoot on an NBA level. Quote the "clutch" last 5 minutes of a game all you want. But the simple fact remains he was 38% last year and is 33% this season. If that isn't the perfect example of going from the proverbial "bad to worse," then I 'm not sure what is. Oh yeah, assists are also down while turnovers are up.
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sadly I think this may be the case.....Burke just could never shoot well at all. :(
 
Interesting stats from last night's game......


Exum: highest +/- with +11


Burke: lowest +/- with -8


(granted, all starters are in the negatives)
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
dat body language is terribad, dude goes from scowling to hanging his head...
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I noticed this last night too.... first time this year I had seen him having bad body language but it was definitely there last night. (It was his worst game of the year so far and he was in foul trouble so I think it was probably appropriate for the situation)
 
Stifle Tower said:
But we do need an experienced PG who could split minutes with Dante, and start if needed.
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Dante and diante.
Jk

What would the jazz need to do to bring over neto? How much would it cost and is even possible?
 
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