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The Gay Community and Censorship

Archie Moses

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What do you guys think? Should they take out the gay joke and should movies (even comedies) exclude gay jokes because of sensitivity?


https://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/01/dilemma-director-will-keep-gay-joke-in-film/?hpt=T2
Dilemma' director will keep gay joke in film

Vince Vaughn's "electric cars are gay" joke may have been cut from the trailer for "The Dilemma," but director Ron Howard says it's staying in the movie.

Despite public outcry from both GLAAD and CNN anchor Anderson Cooper, who declared the words insensitive and harmful, Howard told the Los Angeles Times, "I believe in sensitivity but not censorship."

And so viewers will hear the offending line uttered when the film arrives in theaters in January.

"Our lead character of Ronny Valentine has a mouth that sometimes gets him into trouble and he definitely flirts with the line of what's OK to say. He tries to do what's right but sometimes falls short. Who can't relate to that?" Howard asked. "It is a slight moment in 'The Dilemma' meant to demonstrate an aspect of our lead character's personality, and we never expected it to represent our intentions or the point of view of the movie or those of us who made it."

That said, Howard admitted he enjoys stirring the pot and welcomes discussion and debate.

"I defend the right for some people to express offense at a joke as strongly as I do the right for that joke to be in a film," Howard said. "But if storytellers, comedians, actors and artists are strong-armed into making creative changes, it will endanger comedy as both entertainment and a provoker of thought."

GLAAD president Jarrett Barrios, however, told the Hollywood Reporter he believes Howard's decision is "contributing to the problem. The conversations started as a result of the community’s response to this slur will help schools, media, and parents understand the impact of the word ‘gay’ being used as a pejorative."

Barrios went on, "Hopefully in the future, Universal and Ron Howard will recognize the power of their words and use their films to bring people together rather than drive us apart.”
 
Perhaps because you equated GLAAD with the "gay community", which you most likely know very little about.

I actually do know very little about. I just saw this:

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) amplifies the voice of the LGBT community by empowering real people to share their stories, holding the media accountable for the words and images they present, and helping grassroots organizations communicate effectively. By ensuring that the stories of LGBT people are heard through the media, GLAAD promotes understanding, increases acceptance, and advances equality.

So does GLAAD not represent the gay community? What should I change the title to so you're not offended?
 
I'm not offended. Tink may be offended for some other reason (I was just speculating).

With that said, I'd be surprised if GLAAD were some democratic institution made up of all gay people.
 
Perhaps because you equated GLAAD with the "gay community", which you most likely know very little about.

Perhaps because it shows a confusion over the difference between market forces and censorship, the latter of which can only be done by people in authority.
 
Thousands and thousands of children die everyday because they dont have access to enough food, clean water, and from living in unsanitary conditions. Lets put effort into that before wasting our time on this nonsense.
 
"Barrios went on, "Hopefully in the future, Universal and Ron Howard will recognize the power of their words and use their films to bring people together rather than drive us apart.”

Hollywood is drivin us apart, I tellya!

First time I seen a drama queen critical of movie studios, but....
 
I'm a professional juror. Pay is $5 a day, and ya git to stay warm in the winter. Now and again ya even git tips (in advance, of course).

Me and my pro homeys is startin up a campaign to abolish the phrase "jury-rigged." If ya would like to contribute (don't hafta be nuthin big, even a half pint of Mad Dog would be welcome), and I know ya would, just PM me.
 
"GLAAD is trying to link the use of the word gay in this phrase: “electric cars are… gay” to the bullying of gay students in schools around the country...Hey, I sympathize. I was undersized and a total bookworm throughout most of my school years, so of course I was bullied as a kid....Is there really a link here? I suspect there is, but only if you’re a special interest group trying to justify your existence by using tragic current events to attack someone with deep pockets rather than, you know, actually doing something useful. Lame, mostly unrelated Vince Vaughn jokes don't create bullies, bad parents do.

"It doesn’t make gay people the butt of a joke. The trailer pretty clearly says the word isn’t being used in reference to gay at all. Electric cars are the butt of the joke."

https://www.cinemablend.com/new/GLA...mma-Alone-Until-They-Get-Final-Cut-21149.html


Who cares what the trailer "clearly says?" References to electric cars creates bullies, see? All purty simple, actually.

The actual (full) line:

"Electric cars are gay. I mean, not homosexal gay, but "my parents are chaperoning the dance" gay."

Kinda makes me wanna go bully sumbuddy, know what I'm sayin?
 
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