TheSilencer1313
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Do you think Kevin Love is mad that Al Jefferson is on a better team, without has been injured players in their starting line up?
The Minnesota Racistwolves???
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Do you think Kevin Love is mad that Al Jefferson is on a better team, without has been injured players in their starting line up?
MVP
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I think K. Love believes they have better team then Jazz this year. If you speaking about Roy, he looked very good in preseason. Maybe those germans know what they doing when it comes to repairing those knees.
TheSilencer1313
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Oh I don't doubt that German surgeons are far more educated in matters of almost anything comparable to surgery than American surgeons.
I was also insinuating on Kirilenko's usual conditioning (even though he is one of my favorite players), and the fact that teams will play the Ronnie Brewer card on AK and let him fire from 3 all day.
If B. Roy is seriously back to his old self, then Kevin Love is going to have to restructure his 3 point bombing game a little.
In the end, I think the Jazz are younger and more comparably better.
Not to mention the T-wolves are still way undersized in the post.
The Thriller
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I think we need Affirmative Action in the NBA. We all know that Minny is home to millions of racists. They always hated KG there and always refused to give him any large contracts. And we all know that Kevin Love sucks and Rubio is a flop....
The Miami Heat, Boston Celtics, and Utah Jazz are just too damn black.
Affirmative Action!!!
The Miami Heat, Boston Celtics, and Utah Jazz are just too damn black.
Affirmative Action!!!
At this point, I'm seeing one of two options:
1) You're just trolling (I'm aware that I'm ludicrously easy to troll).
2) You're not just ignorant, but aggressively ignorant. ONe of the things I've learned about human nature is that when you try to argue with the aggressively ignorant, it only serves to confirm their preconceptions. Pointing out why you're wrong would only make you more convinced you are right. So, even if I were in the mood to type out 3-5 long paraqgraphs on Racism 101, including one which explains why the myths of athletic superiority are actually harmful to black people, it would be wasted in this environment. If you are really interested, you'll do the research. My prediction is you won't bother, because you find your ignorance comfortable.
As I mention above, you seem to think this is favorable to the black kids, but it is not.
He works for the Timberwolves. You don't even work in the NBA, AFAIK. Therefore, I take his opinion as at least being based on actual direct experience, unlike your baseless dismissals. So yes, eventhough I see no reason to think one of the Timberwolves' primary motives in their player selection was racism, I also think the players opinion is worth listening to.
Are you asking me because of a genuine interest in the social dynmics in black neighborhoods vs. white neighborhoods, and the intersections of that with racist beliefs that loeads to such an imbalance, or are you just laying down some silly challenge?
I did not see a connection between this response and the quote to which you responded.
MVP
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Undersized in the post? Pekovic will wear any opposing center down. 290lbs of muscle undersized? Stiemsma may not be the strongest but he is 7 footer who led NBA in blocks per minutes. K.Love mentioned after Olympics that it was eye oppener for him how stars scarifice their touches for team wins and that he won't need to score or take as many shots to win. I seriously suggest to watch few Minny games - even without Rubio and Love they look great. Just scary what will happend when they both will be back.
Hotdog
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Dude, you just described yourself. Its you that is being willfully ignorant.
Here's my list
1. The white players in question on the Timberwolves are pretty good basketball players, are they not? Is Kevin Love only in the NBA because he is white? What about Rubio, Vucevic, or AK? Are they only in the NBA because they are white?
2. When making basketball decisions, should the Timberwolves always be aware of how many white people are on the team, and therefore stop at a certain number, no matter if it makes them better or not? If you and this guy had it your way, there wouldn't be any white people playing.
I honestly have no idea what your point is. Seems like you are just practicing using your liberal arts degree.
All I see is team trying to get better, so they went out and hired the best available talent. In fact, they tried hiring some other black people first, but they were racist against the Timberwolves and didnt sign there. (See what I did there).
Hell, I dont think anyone noticed how many white people were in the team except this one jackass. Brandon Roy said it himself, he didnt notice until someone said something. So while almost everyone in the NBA didnt see anything wrong with it, this one guy did. And we should all listen to him. Why? Because everyone that cries racism is right? Huh?
YOU!, stop being the ignorant one. Its this jackass who cried racism here that should have his feet held to the fire for being the racist one. Its obvious, it is him that is racists towards white people. Can you imagine what would happen to someone if white people started crying about how many black people were playing in the NBA? They would get crucified. But since its the other way around, we all have to sit here and listen to this garbage. It's complete nonsense.
Why dont you care that this guy is completely bagging on white people and claiming they cant be good at basketball? Hmmmm? I dont see you standing up for all races. It seems you have an agenda against white people, and you dont care at all about white people. Thats evident by your stance. You could care less that this one guy thinks the Wolves cant be good because the best players on the team are white. So you and this guy have something against white people, do you not?
Kevin Love> 90% of the players in the NBA( which is 90% black) Am I a racists now because I think Kevin Love is really good?
Seriously? What the hell is your point?
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Like the privilege of having black majorities on all NBA teams? Undervaluing good players because of the color of their skin, like saying Hayward has a high BBIQ but isn't very athletic. Hayward isn't very athletic? or Hayward isn't very Black, therefore an inferior athlete?
I always try to keep that possibility in mind.
Regarding your list:
1. I don't think anyone, certainly not Cunningham, Terrell, nor Edwards, claimed that the players were lacking in talent. This was a straw man you produced, apparently out of your own inability to form a cogent argument.
2. I also don't see don't see where anyone has recommended limiting the number of white players on a team, much less not allowing any. This would be another straw man created by you, seemingly for the same reason.
3. Actually, my undergradulte was a Bachelor of Science in Mathematics. When I was young, I used to sneer at the liberal arts in just the manner you did, but then I matured.
4. Since I have offered no opinion on whether the actions of Timberwolves management was actually motivated by racism, I feel no need to alter my opinion based on who Kahn may or may have previously tied to sign.
5. Someone has the be the first to notice something. In the case of this particular something, it's much more likely to have first been noticed by a black man.
I work hard to become less ignorant. I don't rely on priviledge and ignorant skepticism to do that.
Honestly, your pitiful whining about how your priviledge isn't properly respected doesn't sway me in the least. I'[d say more, but for reasons indicated above, it would do no good.
Kevin Love's ability has absolutely nothing to do with why yours words drip with racism and priviledge.
I see no reason to elucidate. Let me know when you want to have a rational conversation, which at a minimum, means not misrepresenting what other people are saying.
And when you are denied a benefit, it is natural to make an excuse or find fault elsewhere as opposed to considering that you actually were treated justly.
I agree that describing Hayward as unathletic comes from racial stereotypes, and I agree that is unfair to Hayward as a player. Just like any other systemic stereotyping, ultimate racism has negative effects for priviledged people, as well.
Do you really want to have a serious discussion about the concept of "the privilege of having black majorities on all NBA teams", the general notion of the realtionship between racism and perceived athelticism, etc.? Or, were you just trying to score a rhetorical point?
Absolutely. That's why you have to incorporate research and studies, to separate the wheat from the chaff. For example, the studies that have shown black men with no criminal record are treated about the same as white men with a criminal record when searching for a job. Studies on who gets stopped, arrested, tried, etc. That helps you stay clear on who's making excuses and who's being treated unfairly.
Just wanted the rhetorical point. So did I get it or what?
Absolutely. Take two.
The Thriller
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I completely agree.
The Twolves are bigtime racists.
They should trade us Kevin Love or Ricky Rubio for Raja Bell.
The Heat are also racists. They should trade us Lebron James for Hayward.
We need to attack racism at its core! Give us Love/Rubio and Lebron James!
The Twolves are bigtime racists.
They should trade us Kevin Love or Ricky Rubio for Raja Bell.
The Heat are also racists. They should trade us Lebron James for Hayward.
We need to attack racism at its core! Give us Love/Rubio and Lebron James!