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Fans gonna be cheering for him. Gotta be a tough spot, having all that negative talk and scrutiny around him this year and then coming back here and getting all the love. I have no idea what his headspace will be like tomorrow.

Really love Gobert but we really need to win this game. Gotta help that draft pick.


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Really love Gobert but we really need to win this game. Gotta help that draft pick.


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Agreed. I would love nothing more than to see Gobert go off and have a 20-20 game with 6 blocks and ****, and we still win by 6 in a thrilling ending. That would be awesome!
 
Agreed. I would love nothing more than to see Gobert go off and have a 20-20 game with 6 blocks and ****, and we still win by 6 in a thrilling ending. That would be awesome!
this is the second must win game of the season.
 
New Orleans has a ****ing super team and yall are wanting the Lakers to lose just to spite the Lakers? That pic becomes Victor and the Pelicans are going to have a dynasty.

WHY?
 
New Orleans has a ****ing super team and yall are wanting the Lakers to lose just to spite the Lakers? That pic becomes Victor and the Pelicans are going to have a dynasty.

WHY?
Thing is, they really don’t have a super team - they just have Zion. CJ has been crap, BI has been out and they are playing their best basketball because Zion is simply destroying the league.

That said, your point stands - you get VW and Zion on the same team, it’s over.
 
Thing is, they really don’t have a super team - they just have Zion. CJ has been crap, BI has been out and they are playing their best basketball because Zion is simply destroying the league.

That said, your point stands - you get VW and Zion on the same team, it’s over.
Yeah, when they all get healthy, super team. BI/Zion plus add on they have very good rookie contract players in Dyson Daniels/Trey Murphy/Herb Jones and then some really good role player rookie contract types like Alvarado and Marshall. They are absolutely stacked.
 
Yeah, when they all get healthy, super team. BI/Zion plus add on they have very good rookie contract players in Dyson Daniels/Trey Murphy/Herb Jones and then some really good role player rookie contract types like Alvarado and Marshall. They are absolutely stacked.
Trey has leveled up in a big way. Loved Daniel’s in the draft. We don’t need them getting anymore diamonds… even if it means the Lakers have to stop being ***.
 
What a crazy season this is. We are almost at Dec 15th and we dont really know any teams that are likely gonna be sellers apart from the obvious 5 non-competitive teams (Houston, Spurs, Charlotte, Detroit and Orlando) and one team (Wizards) that have shown indications they might tank big.

Likeliest sellers (outside of the 5 clear sellers):
1. Most likely team to provide the trade markets with solid players that competitive teams crave for is the Wizards. They have sold their first rounder to Knicks but its lottery protected so they have motivation to blow it up. Indications are there with Kuzma and Beal recent statements.
2. OKC is not looking like a competitive team, but they dont really have players they want to trade out that are of significant value, Their core is too young. Unless they decide to split Giddey and SGA (both are ball-needy and chemistry issues have been reported)... but that seems unlikely.
3. Knicks have potentially 4 picks in the 1st round next draft but all but their own are at least top 10 protected. They also have players they have waved around in trades, so they might just pull the trigger at some point and provide the player markets with something usable.
4. Pacers have their own pick plus two top 12/14 protected ones (Celtics and Cavs). They have the same problem as OKC, as the only players of any value that are not important for their future are Hield and Turner, and neither one seems like a hot commodity as they have been waved around before without much results.
5. Our picks are well documented on this site. Problem is, we dont have high value players that the organization has indicated they are willing to sell. Only Rudy Gay has been waved around. We also might not be sellers at all.
6. Kings have their own pick, but are not looking like a team that is blowing it up right now. They are hyped about the team in Sacramento.
7. Blazers pick has been traded to Bulls but its top 14 protected, so they get it if they fall into lottery. All indications seem though that they want to compete this year, and Dame being on the tail of his career means they likely will.

Talk is also that Chicago might sell (they have traded their 2023 pick as top 4 protected) as well as Miami and Toronto (both own their picks) who all need to reconfigure stuff since their current team is not functional to the level they want it to be. But those three teams are not likely gonna sell the house, but instead look to switch pieces while possibly letting go of some solid players in the process.

Outside of those, there are individual players on competitive or semi-competitive teams that want out (like John Collins and Jae Crowder), but seems the player markets are gonna be a dogfight. It might change before the deadline, but right now at the start of the window the uncertainty is definitely strong.
 
About the Wizards, what kind of package could they get for Beal? He's 29 and has 4 more years after this one, at $57M in 26/27. He's a good player, but I don't think he's worth that contract at all. Is he in the swap-for-Westbrook conversation?
 
About the Wizards, what kind of package could they get for Beal? He's 29 and has 4 more years after this one, at $57M in 26/27. He's a good player, but I don't think he's worth that contract at all. Is he in the swap-for-Westbrook conversation?
I think Beal trade value has taken a slight hit this season, but he is probably the best player in the NBA that could be available... so competition should push it back up. Lakers were reportedly interested but the talk was they dont have the assets for him. Last summer Beal to Blazers was also something that was discussed, since Dame and Beal are apparently newfound buddies.

Beal fits both Dame and Lakers windows pretty well. So sort of makes sense those two would pursue him.

Edit: About the trade value question, I'm not really sure. Maybe 2 firsts and 2 somewhat promising rebuilding pieces + salary filler?
 
About the Wizards, what kind of package could they get for Beal? He's 29 and has 4 more years after this one, at $57M in 26/27. He's a good player, but I don't think he's worth that contract at all. Is he in the swap-for-Westbrook conversation?
By the time he is getting paid that much it wont be as nearly as much as it seems now.

He's still really good. I doubt they would just swap him for Russ and two future picks. It would have to be closer to the package we got for Donovan.
 
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