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KqWIN said:
The fifth guy in their playoff lineup wasn’t great. Caruso is a HUGE upgrade over Giddey/Joe/Wiggins for them.
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I really like Caruso, but I don't think I agree, at least on the HUGE part.

Wallace, Joe, and Wiggins should all be improved next year. I'm not sure Caruso will be a HUGE improvement over any of them.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I really like Caruso, but I don't think I agree, at least on the HUGE part.

Wallace, Joe, and Wiggins should all be improved next year. I'm not sure Caruso will be a HUGE improvement over any of them.
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I think Caruso is the best perimeter defender in the league. Maybe Cason improves, but he has a long way to go. Caruso also shot the ball really well last season. I think he’s not just an upgrade over those guys, but Dort as well.

In any case, you can never have too many 3&D guys. Giddey wasn’t going to help them in the playoffs, they weren’t going to get a better player than Caruso.
 
So one thing... what if trading for AC makes Wallace available in a Lauri trade? I don't think its serious but this does feel like a domino type deal for maybe both of these teams.

Wonder if Bulls get killed on the twitters and media and decide they have to get 150% on trades going forward. Were already gun shy. It does show they kind of want to shuffle things around rather than rebuild. Not that I want to do a Lavine for JCx2 deal... but it seems a bit more plausible given part of the hand they just showed. Would also think Giddey/White is the starting backcourt now... hmmmm.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So one thing... what if trading for AC makes Wallace available in a Lauri trade? I don't think its serious but this does feel like a domino type deal for maybe both of these teams.

Wonder if Bulls get killed on the twitters and media and decide they have to get 150% on trades going forward. Were already gun shy. It does show they kind of want to shuffle things around rather than rebuild. Not that I want to do a Lavine for JCx2 deal... but it seems a bit more plausible given part of the hand they just showed. Would also think Giddey/White is the starting backcourt now... hmmmm.
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Bruh it's not happening. DA isn't taking a Lauri deal headlined by Cason Wallace..
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So one thing... what if trading for AC makes Wallace available in a Lauri trade? I don't think its serious but this does feel like a domino type deal for maybe both of these teams.

Wonder if Bulls get killed on the twitters and media and decide they have to get 150% on trades going forward. Were already gun shy. It does show they kind of want to shuffle things around rather than rebuild. Not that I want to do a Lavine for JCx2 deal... but it seems a bit more plausible given part of the hand they just showed. Would also think Giddey/White is the starting backcourt now... hmmmm.
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I think it more so signals Dort moving in a bigger deal because he is the biggest salary to send out. Caruso immediately steps into that Dort void.
 
sip said:
I think it more so signals Dort moving in a bigger deal because he is the biggest salary to send out. Caruso immediately steps into that Dort void.
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Maybe. Dort is a big part of their culture and they value that a lot.
 
Kessler seems like the perfect amount of investment for the Thunder. They probably don't want to commit starter money to a big and promise him starter minutes with Chet. Kessler is right there on the borderline of starter/bench player and is super cheap. He can be an innings eater during the season and have his role wound down/saved for specific matchups in the playoffs.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Bruh it's not happening. DA isn't taking a Lauri deal headlined by Cason Wallace..
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KqWIN said:
Lauri trade ain’t happening this summer. Get over it guys.
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I'm aware. Just think one of Dort or Wallace might be slightly more available but maybe not at all. Was gonna put there is a less than 1% chance at it but wonder if they would consider it for an upgrade elsewhere.
 
sip said:
Caruso isn't an undersized guard.
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Measured barely 6'5 at the two, he absolutely is. Unless you gonna ask SGA to play the two? Caruso has good size for the point but he can't do any of the point guards things. He is not a liability from outside but he's by no means a knock down shooter either.

It's basically a repeat of all the problems we've seen from Dort during the playoffs. It's even worse when you take into account that their best three point shooter Isaiah Joe is also undersized. It's just a bad fit for them all around and will be a nightmare to figure out the rotation for these guys.
 
KqWIN said:
Kessler seems like the perfect amount of investment for the Thunder. They probably don't want to commit starter money to a big and promise him starter minutes with Chet. Kessler is right there on the borderline of starter/bench player and is super cheap. He can be an innings eater during the season and have his role wound down/saved for specific matchups in the playoffs.
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After seeing how Presti rolls I am not sure Ainge and Presti could ever talk. Consensus is Bulls fans are pissed right now that they couldn't walk out with one pick. lol.

Ainge: I would like 3 firsts for Kessler

Presti: How's about the bad Williams and a couple seconds

silence, crickets, tumbleweed... dial tone.
 
Wonder if Philly is pivoting to Demar as they are rumored to be less interested in PG (likely cuz he ain't interested in them). Bulls can negotiate with Derozan right now and maybe it ain't working. Maybe that is another potential domino here.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
After seeing how Presti rolls I am not sure Ainge and Presti could ever talk. Consensus is Bulls fans are pissed right now that they couldn't walk out with one pick. lol.

Ainge: I would like 3 firsts for Kessler

Presti: How's about the bad Williams and a couple seconds

silence, crickets, tumbleweed... dial tone.
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Tbf, Presti has traded out of drafts before. He traded away Sengun IIRC. If there's not someone they love, they could trade out. I'm not sure they'll be taking on a bunch of projects (I don't think they should at this point). I think Presti is doing the right thing in not wasting these years where they can actually win.

Ainge is also a hard ***, but I don't think he would hesitate to trade Kessler as he did Ochai.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I don't quite understand this for OKC. They already have a bunch of 3&D guard and wings, so getting Caruso isn't a huge upgrade. I'm also not sure what Chicago is doing, so I don't get this from both sides.
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Dort has been rumored on the move for months.
 
KqWIN said:
Tbf, Presti has traded out of drafts before. He traded away Sengun IIRC. If there's not someone they love, they could trade out. I'm not sure they'll be taking on a bunch of projects (I don't think they should at this point). I think Presti is doing the right thing in not wasting these years where they can actually win.

Ainge is also a hard ***, but I don't think he would hesitate to trade Kessler as he did Ochai.
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I was joking. They could work it out I'm sure.

Wonder how desperate the bulls really are to move LaVine. I would get greedy if I was DA. #10 is the best sweetener they have now.
 
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