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I'm going to guess that he's not playing as many minutes as basically everyone in the top 100.

Not to mention that he's got a team full of excellent rebounders.

You're trippin

I agree on the minutes issue. But I also think its an issue he's only played a couple of years and even right now hes only playing 20 minutes a game on a short college season.

If he's the next Olajuwon why would the coach no be playing him more?
 
I agree on the minutes issue. But I also think its an issue he's only played a couple of years and even right now hes only playing 20 minutes a game on a short college season.

If he's the next Olajuwon why would the coach no be playing him more?

His team is stacked. Ellis is their most experienced player so he deserves a lot of burn. Plus, Black transferred from Memphis and can only play this year so I think Bill Self is kind of forced to play him.

If I was self, I'd say "screw Black" and get Embiid in there a lot more. Then one would definitely see his PPG, RPG, BPG, and APG climb.
 
You have to go back 3.5 years to find something stupid I've posted. I have to go back 3.5 minutes to find something stupid you've posted.

Even if you can "make a case" for his lackluster stats you still have his skinny body frame. And in the NBA its hard for a center to ever overcome that. And again I am not saying he is 100% bust. I am just saying out of the top 5 players he is the riskiest pick.
 
Beanclown, stop making such a huge clown of yourself. Embiid would not be so highly regarded if the scouts who do this for their job did not think he was awesome.

The guy has great per minute numbers, he is huge, he is young, and is a freshman. If you are going to be comparing him to Thabeet, at least compare freshman numbers, because Embiid is a freshman.
 
Even if you can "make a case" for his lackluster stats you still have his skinny body frame. And in the NBA its hard for a center to ever overcome that. And again I am not saying he is 100% bust. I am just saying out of the top 5 players he is the riskiest pick.

Jabari seems like a risky pick to me. He is chubby, he got injured in high school, and his defense is suspect.

Wiggins seems risky to me. His drive does not seem like it should be, and his numbers have been solid but unspectacular.

Randle seems like a safe bet to be about 75% of what a superstar should be, so that seems risky too.

Exum has not played more than a few minutes against anyone but high schoolers... how risky is that pick?
 
Beanclown, stop making such a huge clown of yourself. Embiid would not be so highly regarded if the scouts who do this for their job did not think he was awesome.

The guy has great per minute numbers, he is huge, he is young, and is a freshman. If you are going to be comparing him to Thabeet, at least compare freshman numbers, because Embiid is a freshman.


Im not saying he will be a bust. I am just saying he is the riskiest pick in the draft. Big difference.
 
Anybody can find weaknesses with prospects. Good evaluators can determine whether or not those weaknesses will prevent them from being successful at the next level. Nobody can do this with 100% accuracy.
 
Anybody can find weaknesses with prospects. Good evaluators can determine whether or not those weaknesses will prevent them from being successful at the next level. Nobody can do this with 100% accuracy.

Scouts and GM's are wrong more times than they are right.

A player who has only played a few years of basketball rarely works out in the NBA.
 
Hakeem didn't start playing until age 15. I'm not worried about when they started playing for heavens sake. What's really impressive to me is how fast Embiid seems to be developing. He's getting better, and more confident as the season progresses. If we land the number one pick I'd still probably take Jabari over him, but I'd take a good long look beforehand.
 
Olajuwon averaged 8 and 6 as a freshman, playing 18 minutes per game...

He also stayed 2 more years in college, and worked on improving his game before moving to the NBA.

After redshirting his freshman year in 1980–81 because he could not yet get clearance from the NCAA to play,[6] Olajuwon played sparingly as a redshirt freshman in 1981–82, and the Cougars were eliminated in the Final Four by the eventual NCAA champion, North Carolina Tar Heels. Olajuwon sought advice from the coaching staff about how to increase his playing time, and they advised him to work out with local Houston resident and multiple NBA MVP winner, Moses Malone. Malone, who was then a center on the NBA's Houston Rockets, played games every off season with several NBA players at the Fonde Recreation Center. Olajuwon joined the workouts and went head to head with Malone in several games throughout the summer. Olajuwon credited this experience with rapidly improving his game: "The way Moses helped me is by being out there playing and allowing me to go against that level of competition. He was the best center in the NBA at the time, so I was trying to improve my game against the best."[6]
Olajuwon returned from that summer a different player. He and his teammates (including Clyde Drexler) formed what was dubbed "Phi Slama Jama", the first slam-dunking "fraternity", so named because of its above-the-rim prowess. In his sophomore and junior years he helped the Cougars advance to consecutive NCAA championship games, where they lost to North Carolina State on a last second tip-in in 1983 and a Patrick Ewing-led Georgetown team in 1984.[12] Olajuwon won the 1983 NCAA Tournament Player of the Year award,[13] even though he played for the losing team in the final game. He is, to date, the last player from a losing side to be granted this honor. Drexler departed for the NBA in 1983, leaving Olajuwon the lone star on the team.

I don't know why some of these "raw" prospects don't learn from the path taken by many of the greats of the game.
 
I would take Embiid #1 and I wouldn't think twice about it.

Embiid
Parker
Wiggins

Those are your top three right there.
 
I don't know why some of these "raw" prospects don't learn from the path taken by many of the greats of the game.

Like Lebron, Kobe, K-Love, Derrick Rose, Melo, Anthony Davis, Garnett, Irving, Durant

He can improve just as fast, if not faster, by going to the NBA. It's all about the mindset. If he's not mature enough to make basketball his job, then he shouldn't go. If he is, then it's a no-brainer imho. If he won't get frustrated by being initially overwhelmed by the superior talent in the NBA, then it's a no-brainer. It varies for each individual. But yes, there are lots of people who probably would have benefitted from a couple more years in school to get their heads on straight. Also, to keep them from getting their confidence shot by getting dominated early on in their career.
 
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