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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

JazzyFresh said:
As I said, it doesn't bother me nor do I find it behaving badly. It's politics. These sorts of things happen to every president in the history of man kind. I didn't get bent out of shape when Obama did bad things, I'm not going to get bent out of shape when Trump does bad things. It doesn't bother me that he's using whatever means to get his wall built. It effects me in no way. The wall gets built my life doesn't change, the wall doesn't get built my life doesn't change.

Trumps always been an idiot. I don't hate the guy like most, but I understand what he is, and I've understood this before he was even elected. To sit and fret about every damn move the guy makes has to be tiring. It can't be healthy and honestly(not trying to insult but it's my honest opinion) i think it's borderline obsessive.
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You think lying and bad behavior is ok simply cause someone is a politician. Agree to disagree.
I hope people will always try to hold our politicians accountable for things they say and do.

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The Thriller said:
Isn’t this worse than a broken campaign promise?

To me, a broken campaign promise is claiming to make Mexico build a wall and then failing to do so because he got distracted by playing golf.

Instead, he’s lying about it and diverting military funds to cover it up. He still claims Mexico is paying for it (via tariffs). But is using these other funds to actually pay for it.

It’s pretty deceptive. To me, this is more than just a broken campaign promise.

But apparently the rubes don’t care.
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Doesn't matter to some. It's politics. Politicians can do anything they want, say anything they want and behave anyway they want and it's ok cause politics

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JazzyFresh said:
I mean hell, we went to war over WMD's. Clinton got his dick sucked in the office and impeached. Obama promised a bunch of lies to get his Obamacare, ran guns through fast and furious, targeted Republicans through the IRS and allowed Russia to meddle in elections.

This is nothing ****ing new lol.
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All of those things are and should be condemned and criticized rather than excused simply cause politics.

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Next time there is a mass shooting we should just be like it's ok. No need to arrest the shooter and put them in prison. It's just something that humans do. It's been going on for a long time after all.

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One Brow said:
If Trump were ordering a few less F-35s to pay for the border wall, I'd be fine with that. Not so much with education facilities and shooting ranges.
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There’s a certain level of nuance that some posters are purposely ignoring. Characterizing the cuts that Sanders wants to make with those that Trump is actually making, is just another bad faith argument.
 
Zombie said:
Lmao. He keeps digging.



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“In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense.” - George Orwell, 1984
 
colton said:
This is perhaps the very most shocking thing of the whole Trump presidency to me--that about 35% of the US population does not care at all about being lied to.
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I have a feeling that they don’t see them as lies.
 
JazzyFresh said:
That campaign promises are broken. YOu guys can lose your **** about it all you want but it happens to every single politician elected ever. In the end, Trump is getting his wall. We may not like it but it's getting built. I may not like free college but if a candidate that promises free college gets elected then the people have spoken. This is basic political bull **** if you're not trying to devise some fairy tale perfect government.
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What if a candidate promises U.S. students free college that Mexico will pay for, but then after he's elected it turns out that Mexico won't pay for the college nor will Congress allocate funds for it, so he actually diverts money from the U.S. military to pay for the free college for the students. Would you have any issues with that?
 
colton said:
What if a candidate promises U.S. students free college that Mexico will pay for, but then after he's elected it turns out that Mexico won't pay for the college nor will Congress allocate funds for it, so he actually diverts money from the U.S. military to pay for the free college for the students. Would you have any issues with that?
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I'd laugh at such a stupid promise first and foremost even though something similar will eventually happen when we can't afford hundreds of trillions upon trillions to give out "free" ****.

I fully expect it and won't be surprised, no.
 
JazzyFresh said:
You should give your information to Mueller. Let's waste more money on a fairy tale then complain about wasting money on a wall. IMO the left just needs to admit it put out the worst candidate in the history of humans and take the loss like adults. The 3 year tantrum is tiresome.
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Is it possible for you to have a conversation about Trump on his own merits without bringing up Hillary (who I don't think anyone here on the left or right has much good to say about) or is that just too much to ask?
 
Zombie said:
Is it possible for you to have a conversation about Trump on his own merits without bringing up Hillary (who I don't think anyone here on the left or right has much good to say about) or is that just too much to ask?
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I did a quick search and I haven't said Hilary once. The only thing I said was that the left put out the worst candidate in history. That's the truth and a reflection on the left not Hilary. Hell, if they didn't collude Bernie would be president. Not a word about that though from the hypocrites.

Not sure why you have to lie and make **** up, but it doesn't surprise me.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I did a quick search and I haven't said Hilary once. The only thing I said was that the left put out the worst candidate in history. That's the truth and a reflection on the left not Hilary. Hell, if they didn't collude Bernie would be president. Not a word about that though from the hypocrites.
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You could have just said no.

Also, and I say this as a Bernie primary voter, you're wrong about the second part too.
 
Zombie said:
You could have just said no.

Also, and I say this as a Bernie primary voter, you're wrong about the second part too.
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You could have not lied, especially when we're talking about lying in the first place. Funny how that works and that it's ok when you do it.

Unless you want to prove me wrong and show where I've talked about Hillary prior to this conversation.
 
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