Jazzta
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Voting 3rd party is just as valid as any other vote, as is not voting. There’s room for everyone.
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Voting 3rd party is just as valid as any other vote, as is not voting. There’s room for everyone.
It's pretty obvious... Get the majority of minorities voting one side... Then rather than attacking minorities, attack the entire other party. Substitute any racist trope with "democrat" "liberal" "socialist" and you're also covering 80% of races you don't like. That's what Trump is doing.
"No human being wants to live there" allows him to say, "the people in Cummins district are not human" but allows him plausible deniability so he can sidestep racist accusations, but it looks pretty obvious. This is something Trump does very well. He is doing the same thing to "Democrats" "liberals" "socialists"
Adding the "rodent infested". Is he considering the residents there the vermin? Because my brother lives in Baltimore... It's no more "rat infested" than any other city. UNLESS you consider the human residents there vermin themselves.
I've seen plenty of defense against Trump's racism, but it's becoming more and more clear. Far more prominent. You're deluded if you think what Trump does has nothing to do with race.
"No human being wants to live there" allows him to say, "the people in Cummins district are not human" but allows him plausible deniability so he can sidestep racist accusations, but it looks pretty obvious. This is something Trump does very well. He is doing the same thing to "Democrats" "liberals" "socialists"
Adding the "rodent infested". Is he considering the residents there the vermin? Because my brother lives in Baltimore... It's no more "rat infested" than any other city. UNLESS you consider the human residents there vermin themselves.
I've seen plenty of defense against Trump's racism, but it's becoming more and more clear. Far more prominent. You're deluded if you think what Trump does has nothing to do with race.
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This is the double standard stuff that the Republicans did so well... I really didn't notice it until trying to help my narcissistic sister and mother's relationships how similar the behavior is to that of those with narcissistic tendencies. The bar keeps getting raised and no matter what a person does, they cannot win. Cannot gain their respect. It's like "do this and I wouldn't hate you". Then they do that... "You didn't do it the right way, so I still don't like you".
The Thriller
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No. It really isn’t.
Jazzta
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Call it a less relevant option if you may, but it’s just as valid. Weren’t you just applauding the wide selection of candidates the Dems are offering? Let’s be consistent here.
The Thriller
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I applaud the wide selection of Dems. Because they’re candidates from one of the two major parties. The Democratic nominee will have a shot at winning the whites house. Unlike whoever emerges from the third party ranks.
Voting indep is throwing you vote away (helping Trump as his base certainly won’t throw theirs away) because:
* Due to the electoral college, one candidate will need 270 electoral votes or else Congress will vote for who the next pres will be. So even if an indep candidate were to have an historic year and prevent candidates from both parties from obtaining the necessary 270 electoral college votes, they certainly won’t have enough power in congress to win.
* It’s not all about beating Trump, it’s about punishing the GOP so they’ll purge the racist and nationalist among them. I’m fine with conservatism. Although I’m a liberal, I value having a Conservative party that can counter liberal overreach. The GOP isn’t that and won’t be that Conservative party until it sees punishing results. It might take a few elections to rid ourselves of Russian trash like Mitch McConnell, Devin nunes, Rand Paul, Gym Jordan, etc But we can get there if both democrats and independents recognize the existential threat and vote against the GOP.
* Describing the Democrats as this “radical” and “extremist” party is just laughable. I’m old enough to remember when conservatives labeled Obama “the most liberal president ever.” I remember when Obamacare (the republicans counter to Hillary care) was described as “socialism” and had “death panels.” I remember when conservatives on here were having meltdowns calling Obama a socialist elitist Nazi Muslim for wearing a tan suit and using grey poupon mustard and wanting to impeach him for daring to promote healthy lunches.
It was ridiculous hyperbole back in 2008 and it definitely is now in 2019.
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Jazzta
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Would you vote for Harris or Warren if they ran as an independent or would you vote for Gabbard if she came out as the Dem winner?
The Thriller
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I’ve already answered that.
I’d vote for the Democrat because as long as the EC is around, a candidate from one of the two major parties must obtain 270 electoral college votes. If they don’t, they’ll be appointed by one of the two major parties in congress. I’m not a fan of Tulsi but I’d vote Dem to rid ourselves of agent orange and punish his GOP. Don’t like this? Get rid of the EC (it’ll take 3/4ths of the states to agree).
Now tell me, as long as we’re doing hypotheticals, Which indep candidate has the qualifications, appeal, and popularity of Harris or Warren?
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The Thriller
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@Jazzta
And others who are thinking about voting indep.
Along with hypotheticals, would you prefer to vote for a candidate like Warren or Harris who might be a little more liberal than you’re used to and get trump out? Or would you really prefer “political purity” and vote indep and give trump another 4 years to embarrass us globally and race bait black communities daily?
And others who are thinking about voting indep.
Along with hypotheticals, would you prefer to vote for a candidate like Warren or Harris who might be a little more liberal than you’re used to and get trump out? Or would you really prefer “political purity” and vote indep and give trump another 4 years to embarrass us globally and race bait black communities daily?
The Thriller
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What would be my qualifications for potus Right now?
* Someone who’ll actually read the daily briefing, not just watch Fox n friends.
* Someone will take measures against foreign interference with our elections.
* Someone who won’t dehumanize fellow human beings with their words
* Someone witty an attention span longer than 3 minutes.
* Someone who can spell the word “Constitution” without asking for help.
* Someone with a sense of humor. Hot take: Trump isn’t intentionally funny. He’s funny because we can’t believe an actual human being would be as dumb or clownish as he is.
Clearly, my low expectations are a reflection of how desperate of a situation our country faces right now.
Jazzta
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I’d prefer to give trump another 4 years to embarrass us globally and race bait black communities daily. Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom first to realize how effed up we are as a nation, if people are so blinded that they would give Trump another 4 years.
DasJazz
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Big socialist Bernie on Baltimore's living conditions:
“Anyone who took the walk that we took around this neighborhood would not think you’re in a wealthy nation,” Sanders said during a visit to the city’s West Baltimore section in December 2015, the Baltimore Sun reported. “You would think that you were in a Third World country.”
Reminder, this is just one of many major cities that have been run into the ground by Democrats.
The Thriller
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2 things.
1. West Baltimore is part of Rep Cummings’ district. Trump trashed his district and used racist undertones to specially reference the poor black community in the district. You can’t see the difference?
2. West Baltimore has seen de-industrialization, white flight, and issues with crime and drugs for over 40 years. Blaming democrats for the macroeconomics occurring in that area would be like blaming republicans for the opioid addicted dumpster fires in white Appalachia that have seen declines in manufacturing and coal mining over the past 40 years.
Using your logic, you’d have no problem if Obama had attacked white parts of West Virginia that are addicted to opioids, right?
Jazzta
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I agree that the country is in a desperate situation and that removing the would-be dictator should be top priority. But let’s analyze, how did he come to be elected in the first place? With slogans such as “drain the swamp”, of which he is part of. Some of Trump’s voters wanted deeper, fundamental changes to happen, such as moving to a more sensical and not so media driven electoral process.
The Thriller
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The Thriller
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You proved my point.
He won because he got 270 votes.
People who previously voted for democrats voted for trump, voted 3rd party, or stayed at home. That’s why Russian interference was key. Russians targeted groups, like minorities, to convince them that Clinton didn’t have their best interests and to stay at home or vote 3rd party.
If we want to avoid a repeat of that, vote for the Democratic nominee. They’re the only candidate who’ll prevent trump from getting 270 votes and winning re-election.
The Thriller
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Yes. If you don’t want trump, vote democrat. A third party candidate has zero chance of winning 270 electoral college votes. I’m sorry that the truth hurts.
Want the GOP to reform itself and return to being a Conservative party and not just the party of white nationalists? Vote for democrats.
You might not like it, but it’s the truth.
I’m not sure why this is such a hot take. Seems pretty obvious to me.
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