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Zombie said:
I don't think we are actually acting like its 100%. My position, shared by most others on the left, is that women generally ought to be believed when they claim they were assaulted, and a their claims should be investigated.

I didn't find the "investigation" into Fords claims satisfactory as it was hamstrung by the White House and unnecessarily limited.


Again, there was a witness, you are asking for additional witnesses, which seems impossible considering the alleged assault occurred behind closed doors with only Ford and the perpetrators present.
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You don't remember the constant attacks and marches?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/5416105/kavanaugh-protest/?amp=true
 
Zombie said:
First hand accounts are not rumors.
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Second hand accounts shouldn’t be dismissed. Erin Brokavich didn’t have to drink the poisoned water to expose the crime and corruption that was occurring. Besides, trumpers would just deny the first hand accounts. They’ll continuously move the goalposts in order to protect their tender precious and immature egos. They’ve been at the kool-aid trough for too long.

Many cultists after drinking the kool-aid will never wake up.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
How many times has the dam broke so far? There must be some sort of cosmic force that's holding that water back.
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I'm actually only aware of this time. If I felt that way prior, I might have said as much prior. Barr cleverly, slyly, dulled the impact the Mueller Report might have had, so it did not happen then. That's just how I feel about this week of cascading bad news for Trump.

I thought he had taken an oath to protect and defend the constitution. I thought, as the Commander-in-Chief, that it would be strange for the Commander to simply forgive Russia for attacking us. Very strange to tell the Russian ambassador to the US, and the Russian Foreign Minister that Russia's interference in our election did not concern him. Does he know Russia was our chief geopolitical adversary of the past 70 plus years? I should think our Commander-in-Chief would know that, and act appropriately. Does not look like that was the case.

Quite honestly, my opinion that is, I do not think Donald Trump is on our side. And that dam? That's the dam holding back all these revelations that are currently pouring forth. The dam has indeed broke. And I am not aware of this degree of cascading revelations, over such a short time, happening prior. Hence my comment.

And it pleases me, yes indeed, it pleases me. Not that my country should have to go through all this. But pleased that the truth will out. I believe that's what recent events portend, the truth will out. I'm all about that. Truth. It's very important to me. It's the kind of guy I am. My friends find it to be an admirable quality. And I admire those for whom truth is always the goal. We live but once. I prefer to live with honor. I cannot say my president is an honorable man. Pretty sad, really.

Things are coming into sharper focus. His encouragement of Russian interference in 2016 was not a one off. He's a lawless president.
 
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JazzyFresh said:
Lol asking for proof is wrong? No wonder you dudes are so gullible. Proving something is frowned upon. Lol

I get it. You can't prove ****. So what do you do? Insult. I asked a SIMPLE question. I'm curious if women were actually drugged but I'm not going to call someone a rapist of rumors.
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Prove that Biden committed a crime! Hillary toooooooooo!!!!!!

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The Thriller said:
Second hand accounts shouldn’t be dismissed. Erin Brokavich didn’t have to drink the poisoned water to expose the crime and corruption that was occurring. Besides, trumpers would just deny the first hand accounts. They’ll continuously move the goalposts in order to protect their tender precious and immature egos. They’ve been at the kool-aid trough for too long.

Many cultists after drinking the kool-aid will never wake up.
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Oh I completely agree. Linda Tripp gave a sendond hand account in the Lewinsky scandal that led to the blue dress. Somehow that was acceptable to the likes of Lindsey Graham and others back then.

I was merely pointing out that the claims JazzyFresh was talking about were not rumors.
 
Zombie said:
Oh I completely agree. Linda Tripp gave a sendond hand account in the Lewinsky scandal that led to the blue dress. Somehow that was acceptable to the likes of Lindsey Graham and others back then.

I was merely pointing out that the claims JazzyFresh was talking about were not rumors.
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In that case, the second-hand information led to the discovery of real forensic evidence. That's helpful. Second-hand information that doesn't have evidence is just an allegation, at best.
 
Zombie said:
Of course I do. Women believed Ford and marched in support of her. Many of them victims of assault as well. Should their voices not be heard?
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I only posted that because you said you weren't sure the left thought he was guilty yet you just said otherwise...
 
Catchall said:
In that case, the second-hand information led to the discovery of real forensic evidence. That's helpful. Second-hand information that doesn't have evidence is just an allegation, at best.
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So like a whistleblower report that turned up a document related to a phone call where the President asks a foreign leader to investigate a political rival? That kind of evidence?
 
Catchall said:
In that case, the second-hand information led to the discovery of real forensic evidence. That's helpful. Second-hand information that doesn't have evidence is just an allegation.
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So I'm sure we'll stop hearing that we shouldn't investigate the claims made by the whistleblower because there's no way that could happen again.
 
Zombie said:
So I'm sure we'll stop hearing that we shouldn't investigate the claims made by the whistleblower because there's no way that could happen again.
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By all means, the whistleblower's allegations should be investigated, as should the whistleblower. When real evidence arrives, I'm sure we'll all hear about it.
 
In related news, it appears that the House is now going on vacation for the next two weeks. I applaud their conviction and steely resolve in the face of this self-proclaimed constitutional crisis.
 
Catchall said:
By all means, the whistleblower's allegations should be investigated, as should the whistleblower. When real evidence arrives, I'm sure we'll all hear about it.
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Wasn’t the whistleblower in a way already investigated when he/she reported the complaint and his/her complaint was deemed “credible” and “urgent?”

Why should be be extensively investigated if the complaint he made was accurate and has revealed a devastating amount of corruption? What is to be gained by investigating him/her personally? Shouldn’t rule of law supersede politics or personal vendettas?

Why are trumpers holding this whistleblower to a standard they’ve never applied to any previous one?

Isn’t the impeachment inquiry supposed to continue to investigate his/her complaint? Thus far it’s been very fruitful and damaging to Donald.
 
Catchall said:
In related news, it appears that the House is now going on vacation for the next two weeks. I applaud their conviction and steely resolve in the face of this self-proclaimed constitutional crisis.
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Not to worry the impeachment inquiry will be continuing through the recess. Interviews hearing subpoenas and all.
 
Zombie said:
Good to know you support an impeachment inquiry then.
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Just for reference, the process of impeachment would normally begin with a clear charge of a High Crime or Misdemeanor, some evidence to support that accusation, and a House vote to approve the impeachment inquiry. Pelosi is skipping the House vote and is light on evidence far. It's her call though.
 
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