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Thanks for the elaborate response. What reliable sources would you recommend? I wouldn’t want to fall in line with the disinformation that’s being thrown out there.

newspapers?

washington post

TV/Online? CNN’s website honestly has done an outstanding job of covering this. Jake Tapper in particular.

Deadline with Nicolle Wallace I’ve found to be incredibly informative.

podcasts:

* The Daily (NY Times)
* The Bulwark
* Lawfare
* Slate Politics
* Pod Save the World
* Stay Tuned with Preet

twitter:

* Jim Acosta
* Tom Nichols
* Jennifer Rubin
* George Conway
* Natasha Bertrand
* Kevin Kruse
* Ruth Ben Ghiat
* Greg Sargent
* Daniel Dale
* Mehdi Hassan
* Jay Caruso
* Charlie Sykes
* Sam Vinograd
* Neera Tanden
* Molly Jong Fast
* Rick Wilson
* Steve Vladeck
* Jon Favreau

these are some of my favorite follows. A host of historians, lawyers, reporters, and funny political writers. They provide terrific insight into Trump, history, and politics.
 
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newspapers?

washington post

TV/Online? CNN’s website honestly has done an outstanding job of covering this. Jake Tapper in particular.

Deadline with Nicolle Wallace I’ve found to be incredibly informative.

podcasts:

* The Daily (NY Times)
* The Bulwark
* Lawfare
* Slate Politics
* Pod Save the World
* Stay Tuned with Preet

twitter:

* Jim Acosta
* Tom Nichols
* Jennifer Rubin
* George Conway
* Natasha Bertrand
* Kevin Kruse
* Ruth Ben Ghiat
* Greg Sargent
* Daniel Dale
* Mehdi Hassan
* Jay Caruso
* Charlie Sykes
* Sam Vinograd
* Neera Tanden
* Molly Jong Fast
* Rick Wilson
* Steve Vladeck
* Jon Favreau

these are some of my favorite follows. A host of historians, lawyers, reporters, and funny political writers. They provide terrific insight into Trump, history, and politics.

Thanks, very eye opening. Nothing personal but I no longer wish to engage in political discussion with you.
 
Thanks, very eye opening. Nothing personal but I no longer wish to engage in political discussion with you.
Lol, what. His list is pretty good, although I'm not much a fan of Neera Tanden or a bunch of the right leaning people in the list, but they do give a different perspective.

Kevin Kruse is someone every person should follow on twitter.
 
Thanks, very eye opening. Nothing personal but I no longer wish to engage in political discussion with you.

Ummm. Ok? That’s a weird response. Why?

Remember, you decided to enter this thread. And not only did you enter it, you spread disinformation about a topic that was covered thoroughly weeks ago not only by the media but by good posters on this board. You were the one equating Biden and Trump together we “trash”. You even hoped both would be taken down by this Ukrainian scandal because you were poorly informed.

If Biden’s campaign fails let it fail by its own merits, not because Trump and his goons Cooked something up.

If you post disinformation on the board, expect to be corrected. Don’t like it? Get better informed. You’ve been given the resources, use them. Don’t be angry at me.
 
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Lol, what. His list is pretty good, although I'm not much a fan of Neera Tanden or a bunch of the right leaning people in the list, but they do give a different perspective.

Kevin Kruse is someone every person should follow on twitter.

I like getting the different perspectives from those on the right. I agree with them on some things and not so much on others. I find their takes particularly on foreign policy and Trump to be quite refreshing because they’re republicans/conservatives. Their perspective is different and often deeper. I think conway, Nichols, or Sykes give me something to think about everyday.

The Conway marriage is one that I can’t figure out. The only thing I can think of is either she shares her husbands opinions but sells out for her own financial well being or they’re merely married in name only. George has been vocally anti-Trump for a few years now.

I agree, kevin Kruse is the best follow on all social media. Not kidding. Incredible historian and utterly hilarious.
 
The Conway marriage is one that I can’t figure out. The only thing I can think of is either she shares her husbands opinions but sells out for her own financial well being or they’re merely married in name only. George has been vocally anti-Trump for a few years now.
Or they're really into BDSM and shame play...
 
Wow, interesting. The book will be anonymous as well, I assume?

Yes....

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I gotta be honest, this book is pretty worthless to me.

Prior to all of this Ukraine stuff? Sure. But I have a hard time believing this book will be any more revealing than what actual ambassadors and transcripts have provided in House testimony over these past few weeks. However, anything that can be piled onto trump and hopefully convince more people that he needs to go is A-Okay in my book.

If it’s what you say it is, I love it!
 
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sooooooooo this is their defense this week?

a. Abuse of power isn’t impeachable.
b. Ukraine didn’t know it was being blackmailed. Even though Taylor’s testimony from yesterday states that Ukraine knew it was being blackmailed and they knew that their president had to publicly announce they were looking into the Bidens in order to get the money.

Sigh
 
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I gotta be honest, this book is pretty worthless to me.

Prior to all of this Ukraine stuff? Sure. But I have a hard time believing this book will be any more revealing than what actual ambassadors and transcripts have provided in House testimony over these past few weeks. However, anything that can be piled onto trump and hopefully convince more people that he needs to go is A-Okay in my book.

If it’s what you say it is, I love it!

I imagine it will have some revealing sections. On the other hand, I've been aware a warning was in order since the day he and Melania descended the escalator in Trump Tower to announce his candidacy....
 
Which one of these examples do you think is equivalent to Hunter Biden? You were the guy who didn't see my Biden example as relevant to what's going on with Trump, yet now you feel like just because the stories you have pointed out involve children and money (and no other similarities that I'm aware of) that they are equivalent to the Biden situation?
The issue with Biden is using his dad's political stature to get a job to make money.
Trump's kids do it too. That's the equivalency.

Or do you think Trump's kids have to get the exact same job as Hunter for the exact same salary to make the comparison?


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sooooooooo this is their defense this week?

a. Abuse of power isn’t impeachable.
b. Ukraine didn’t know it was being blackmailed. Even though Taylor’s testimony from yesterday states that Ukraine knew it was being blackmailed and they knew that their president had to publicly announce they were looking into the Bidens in order to get the money.

Sigh


Yep. I liked this comment.

 
Damn, joe got pwned on that comment lol


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The Biden situation of leveraging his dad's position to make money?

I'm pretty sure I already did that.
The nepotism one is clearly completely different. The investment one is regarding a real estate company that his son-in-law owns a portion of but does not manage or control. The company is doing today exactly what it did before Trump was president. If monies are coming into it in order to influence Trump that should be looked into, but it does not appear to be similar to the Biden deal either way. The emoluments argument I know is exciting to never-Trumpers, but everyone knew long before Trump was elected that he had extremely complex international business interests. It would be virtually impossible not to have some impact on them, positive or negative, when dealing with international politics. I agree that looking into various instances is prudent and reasonable, but just throwing a blanket over the idea of emoluments and claiming that he must somehow be in violation is not.
 
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