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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

Let me lay this out for you very politely and slow so you can see the picture clearly. Then you are free to take from it what you like, and that will tell us where your motives lie.

Burisma signed an agreement with Atlantic.
Atlantic paid Peter Schiff's guy to go to Ukraine. Not some other related think tank business, but Ukraine business.
Immediately after this trip, a Burisma link Ukrainian suggests to Sondland that there is quid pro quo, not other way around.
Immediately after this, Peter Schiff and them start leaking Trump Ukraine stuff.
The whistleblower is buddy buddy with said guy above. They all form this tidy little tangled web.

So you want to claim that because money is fungible that Burisma paying Atlantic to pay the whistleblower team to travel to Ukraine and then break this story was somehow not Burisma paying Peter Schiff's squad? That's as laughable and disingenuous as it gets, and you know it Zombie.
I think we should respect the office regardless of who wins but didn't want him to respect it with Trump, think they should impeach him for illegally paying off hookers with campaign money, think he deserves to be impeached for his racist go back to where they came from remark about some congresswomen, and even believe he is most likely guilty of trying to bribe Ukraine even if it cannot be proven - Franklin

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Burisma and the AC made this agreement in 2017, why are you presenting these two facts as if they're connected?

The AC sent a number of staffers of their Eurasian center on this trip, which was planned way back in May. Your time line is starting to fall apart here.


Which Burisma linked individual are you talking about, and how is he linked? Why does it matter that this Ukrainian brought up the issue of the quid pro quo?

Again, his name is Adam Schiff, and you have no evidence he nor his office is behind the leaks.


I'm claiming that AC's interest in Ukraine doesn't begin or end with Burisma, and you're positing conjecture, like that the trip to Ukraine was on behalf of Burisma, as if it's a fact without any evidence. Par for the course really.

Nobody is surprised you automatically brush aside facts and pretend they don't exist. Guess what, the American people aren't buying your spin. Where there is smoke there is fire.

It's always amusing when people buy the line one side is pushing hook, line and sinker. The sad thing is they really believe there isn't any other motive driving the DNC or any gamesmanship going on behind the scenes. Well, wake up and smell the roses buddy, politicians are out to get reelected and win the battle for national control. They are ten moves ahead of you and I, and set this political theater up for all of us to view. Some of you have suspended disbelief but fortunately the rest of us see the show for what it is, and are trying to get to the bottom of it and make sense of it all in spite of all the noise from the sheep clogging the lanes.
 
I'm claiming that AC's interest in Ukraine doesn't begin or end with Burisma, and you're positing conjecture, like that the trip to Ukraine was on behalf of Burisma, as if it's a fact without any evidence. Par for the course really.

You don't find it the tiniest bit odd or a conflict of interest at best and a serious national security threat on the worse end that staffers are working with NGO's, meeting with our ambassadors overseas not on behalf of the US government but some other organization, and with foreign dignitaries? Hmm, nothing could possibly go wrong there, they'll manage that huge conflict in the best interests of the United States instead of their own right?

Peter Schiff has surrounded himself with I'll advised ties to Ukraine and needs to answer. March him in front of the Senate right behind Joe and Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, and everyone at the DNC who rigged the election and gave us Trump.
 
Nobody is surprised you automatically brush aside facts and pretend they don't exist. Guess what, the American people aren't buying your spin. Where there is smoke there is fire.

You said this though: I think they should impeach him for illegally paying off hookers with campaign money, think he deserves to be impeached for his racist go back to where they came from remark about some congresswomen, and even believe he is most likely guilty of trying to bribe Ukraine even if it cannot be proven


I guess you bought the spin. Where there is smoke there is fire.

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Nobody is surprised you automatically brush aside facts and pretend they don't exist. Guess what, the American people aren't buying your spin. Where there is smoke there is fire.

In fact I provided additional facts you left out, and asked for further clarification on other points which you ignored.

Clearly you aren't engaging in good faith, back on ignore you go.
 
You don't find it the tiniest bit odd or a conflict of interest at best and a serious national security threat on the worse end that staffers are working with NGO's, meeting with our ambassadors overseas not on behalf of the US government but some other organization, and with foreign dignitaries?
This is neither unusual or remarkable.
 
In fact I provided additional facts you left out, and asked for further clarification on other points which you ignored.

Clearly you aren't engaging in good faith, back on ignore you go.

Weak sauce. You dont argue in good faith. Facts

Your answer is to go to your safe space?

Lmao
 
As usual, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Corruption, obstruction, what do you think of this?:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...est_its_in_the_national_security_council.html

There is a legal scholar saying what Trump is alleged to have done is legal.


As usual, I have no idea what you are trying to say. Corruption, obstruction, what do you think of this?:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...est_its_in_the_national_security_council.html

There is a legal scholar saying what Trump is alleged to have done is legal.

I think you've just asked me what I think of a mainstream media article.

Weren't you just bitching about mainstream media?
 


This impeachment circus is hilarious. All these lawyers the Dems brought in are the epitome of a hard core liberal. Its like they think its a good idea to try harder convincing the already Trump hating liberals that Trump should be impeached. No awareness at all at how this all looks.

Matt Gaetz is bad ***. I like him.
 
This one is too cute and juicy. I should have gotten more into this squabble earlier, it's getting sorta interesting.

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usne...-found-with-ties-to-burisma-funded-think-tank

Apparently everyone tied to Peter Schiff and all sorts of people in the CIA and intelligence community have ties/are paid by Burisma, especially through The Atlantic Council.

"A second staffer for Representative Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, has been discovered to have ties to the Atlantic Council, a think tank that receives funding from and works in partnership with Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian natural gas company whose relationship with Hunter and Joe Biden forms the basis of the current impeachment probe into President Trump.

The staffer, Sean Misko, reportedly joined Schiff’s staff at the House Intelligence Committee in August — the same month that the whistleblower’s complaint was filed after first reportedly interfacing with a Schiff staffer.

Misko has been described as being “close friends” with Eric Ciaramella, the CIA operative believed to be the whistleblower."


Hmm, looks like those consulting fees paid to Hunter Biden are starting to pay dividends. And remember when the whistleblower came forward? When Biden was on top of the polls and he knew that an impeached Trump would mean Biden winning in a landslide. So the Burisma/Biden bought and paid for staffer with his groupie support network create this nonsense and blow the whistle.
Reported for alt.
 
Love it! Now everyone and their mother sold their souls to some Ukrainian company. High profile U.S. politicians, officials, think tanks, all of them are like **** whatever we're supposed to be about, we're just foot soldiers for Burisma now. Awaiting orders from world superpower Ukraine and their corporate overlord, Burisma.

I imagine if you matched Burisma and their dominate world influence with Hillary Clinton's superpowers (Mind Control, Undetectable Murder, Can Commit Obvious Crimes That Everyone Knows About But For Which No Evidence Can Be Found, Media Control, among many many more) they could probably take over the world... except, They'll have to go through Donald mother****ing Trump first, and he's got the superpower of Stable Genius!
 
Oof

this is just such a bad take.

I’m glad she was destroyed for it:

the more I see of the GOP the more I think this party will devolve into an irrelevant radical white nationalist party. I’m thinking that the DNC will actually split in two perhaps in the next decade or two. A conservative wing will break from the more progressive wing. Non-racist conservatives need a home. And I just don’t see it happening anytime in the near future with the GOP. Correct my if I’m wrong, @colton, but I’d bet you’d be willing to join a conservative Democratic Party if their views on abortion were to be more conservative, correct? I mean, I’m thinking you have more in common with conservative Democrats, like Joe Manchin, Ben Mcadams, and probably Amy Klobachar than racist and Trumper republicans (too many to list).

IMO, that’s where the future really lies. A more progressive led Democratic Party in the cities splitting from a conservative Democratic Party in the suburbs, while the white nationalist party becomes marginalized in the isolated rural areas of the country and Deep South.

I just don’t see much of a future for the GOP. Especially after their primary demographic, the baby boomers, have kicked the can. And I don’t see with their current leadership any sort of vision for the future. Let’s pretend Donald died of a stroke today. what’s the plan for the next 4 years? More tax cuts? More white resentment? More attacks on academics and those with college degrees? More handouts to farmers in failed trade wars? What’s the vision?
 
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Love it! Now everyone and their mother sold their souls to some Ukrainian company. High profile U.S. politicians, officials, think tanks, all of them are like **** whatever we're supposed to be about, we're just foot soldiers for Burisma now. Awaiting orders from world superpower Ukraine and their corporate overlord, Burisma.

I imagine if you matched Burisma and their dominate world influence with Hillary Clinton's superpowers (Mind Control, Undetectable Murder, Can Commit Obvious Crimes That Everyone Knows About But For Which No Evidence Can Be Found, Media Control, among many many more) they could probably take over the world... except, They'll have to go through Donald mother****ing Trump first, and he's got the superpower of Stable Genius!

Thats not far from the truth.

The funny thing is all the "brain power" attempting to take down Trump, wont actually succeed, and both you and I know that.

If the guy you think is so dumb is taking all his detractors to the wood shed, what does that say about them?

The even louder screeech the snowflakes make when Trump wins again in 2020 will echo for an eternity. Can't wait.
 
Oof

this is just such a bad take.

I’m glad she was destroyed for it:

the more I see of the GOP the more I think this party will devolve into an irrelevant radical white nationalist party. I’m thinking that the DNC will actually split in two perhaps in the next decade or two. A conservative wing will break from the more progressive wing. Non-racist conservatives need a home. And I just don’t see it happening anytime in the near future with the GOP. Correct my if I’m wrong, @colton, but I’d bet you’d be willing to join a conservative Democratic Party if their views on abortion were to be more conservative, correct? I mean, I’m thinking you have more in common with conservative Democrats, like Joe Manchin, Ben Mcadams, and probably Amy Klobachar than racist and Trumper republicans (too many to list).

IMO, that’s where the future really lies. A more progressive led Democratic Party in the cities splitting from a conservative Democratic Party in the suburbs, while the white nationalist party becomes marginalized in the isolated rural areas of the country and Deep South.

I just don’t see much of a future for the GOP. Especially after their primary demographic, the baby boomers, have kicked the can. And I don’t see with their current leadership any sort of vision for the future. Let’s pretend Donald died of a stroke today. what’s the plan for the next 4 years? More tax cuts? More white resentment? More attacks on academics and those with college degrees? More handouts to farmers in failed trade wars? What’s the vision?

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