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The Official Please Retire Jerry Sloan Thread

David Stern

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We all know that we aren't going anywhere with this fool, so can somebody (like Greg Miller, his young wife, or even Deron Williams) please coax him into retirement?

Anyways, I'm secretly hoping that we lose out from here so that Sloan will finally see that it is time to move on from the Jazz. I can't wait for the day when he will ride off on his John Deere to his farm where nobody will have to question his substitution patterns, among other things.
 
This. If we take a step back and miss the playoffs, so be it. We know we're not winning it all with this knucklehead so why not take a chance on JVG or some young, up and coming assistant?
 
David Stern said:
We all know that we aren't going anywhere with this fool, so can somebody (like Greg Miller, his young wife, or even Deron Williams) please coax him into retirement?

Anyways, I'm secretly hoping that we lose out from here so that Sloan will finally see that it is time to move on from the Jazz. I can't wait for the day when he will ride off on his John Deere to his farm where nobody will have to question his substitution patterns, among other things.
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If you really think BigAl, Raja and other newcomers will suddenly learn the sets, commit themselves to do their assignments CONSISTENTLY and start playing with some efficiency with real defense, not fake effort, and the team will somehow mesh together as a result of a coaching chance, you better stop fooling yourself.

Any group of guys with disciplined attitude, trust in any kind of offensive and defensive system and passion and will to do his job should be able to score WAY more than 81 pts against GSW. We might be seeing the worst offensive performance from any Jazz team. Combine it with lackluster, fake defense. I think players have a much bigger impact on the current downfall of the team than coaches.

In order for me to think that Sloan cannot use this flexible roster in an efficient and effective way, I, firsty, should not have question marks about the effort, the willingness to learn the system no matter how complicated or disciplined, unselfish it is.
 
We have been told countless times that Sloan is able to get the most out of the players given to him. I would argue that Sloan is not getting the most out of this group of players. Some will say that it is not Sloan's fault that the players are not doing their jobs. But I would argue that it is absolutely his fault. It is his job to mesh the players and talent. Some will argue that this team is full of new players that are still getting to know the system. I would argue that we are not making progress and in fact it seems we are regressing.
 
Rigid systems make for recruiting and optimizing every type of player nearly impossible in today's NBA. The game has changed. There aren't rosters full of 6'7 white dudes running around the floor getting uncontested layups anymore.
 
As one of Jerry's largest critics the last couple of years, I can honestly say I have been impressed with some of what I have seen behind the scenes this year regarding the coaching of players. That is all.
 
go4jazz said:
As one of Jerry's largest critics the last couple of years, I can honestly say I have been impressed with some of what I have seen behind the scenes this year regarding the coaching of players. That is all.
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This is all? My ***. Impressed with what...do tell please.
 
go4jazz said:
As one of Jerry's largest critics the last couple of years, I can honestly say I have been impressed with some of what I have seen behind the scenes this year regarding the coaching of players. That is all.
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Did you see the P90X thread in the general forum?
 
twentytwo said:
This thread comes back every year verbatim while we are struggling.

Still makes me chuckle, though.
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Agreed.
Just like all of the owners in the NBA, replace the coach and the struggles go away??
Prime example Dallas?
Many new coaches since getting Dirk Nowitski, and they still can't get over the hump.
 
friendsinmyhead said:
We have been told countless times that Sloan is able to get the most out of the players given to him. I would argue that Sloan is not getting the most out of this group of players. Some will say that it is not Sloan's fault that the players are not doing their jobs. But I would argue that it is absolutely his fault. It is his job to mesh the players and talent. Some will argue that this team is full of new players that are still getting to know the system. I would argue that we are not making progress and in fact it seems we are regressing.
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It's idiotic to say it's entirely Sloans fault. It's amazing how some fans think they know everything, and think they could do a better job! A coach can teach offense and preach defense and motivate all they want, but the players have to choose to listen to the coach choose to be invested in the team concept, choose to be motivated and so forth.

You will be hard pressed to find as many coaches who've been as successful as Sloan sure he hasn't won it all but, one could argue that he went up against the greatest player of all time, and fell short. How many teams have beaten him. Jordan even went on to say the jazz gave his Bulls their toughest challenge. Has Sloan won it all? No, has he won coach of the year? No, what makes a great coach is someone who stands the test of time! Many coaches who've won a championship or who've won coach of the year have flamed out a year or two later. It is my opinion that the Jazz would not be hear if not for Sloan. He deserves to be here till he deems it a career.
 
Count me in. Obviously, you can pin blame on the players because it's their job to play. But good coaches get the most out of their players and that's frankly not what I'm seeing on the floor. Sloan's system is outdated and everyone knows how to beat the Jazz nowadays - be faster, more athletic or just play hard and jack up 3's. Can't fire the players - might as well try to find somebody that can get the most out of the players we've got. Sloan's been coaching from the back seat for a few years now anyway.
 
unluckyseventeen said:
Count me in. Obviously, you can pin blame on the players because it's their job to play. But good coaches get the most out of their players and that's frankly not what I'm seeing on the floor. Sloan's system is outdated and everyone knows how to beat the Jazz nowadays - be faster, more athletic or just play hard and jack up 3's. Can't fire the players - might as well try to find somebody that can get the most out of the players we've got. Sloan's been coaching from the back seat for a few years now anyway.
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Doesn't that fall under the category of the general manager. As I recall the Jazz were winning earlier in the year they weren't pretty wins but wins. One might say Sloan was getting the most out of inferior talent. Fast forward to today can you honestly say that the players are giving 100% I think not. Pblayers deserve some of the blame.
 
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