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I'm mean I'm sure the trumpers can cherry pick some of this away with fake news or that some of it isn't a big deal (his kids talking about all the Russian money they have) or the Steele dossier etc.
But looking at that as a whole and you would have to be an idiotic blind sheep to not realize there are some issues relating to trump and his relationship to Russia.

That's WAY TOO much ****ing smoke.
From the Senate confirmation hearing for Ambassador to Mexico. Lifted off Facebook. Personally, I do believe Trump is a Russian asset, to some degree.

Senator Jeff Merkley walked into the hearing room like a man who’d just been told his car got keyed and knew exactly who did it. On the other side of the table sat Christopher Landau, Trump’s nominee for Ambassador to Mexico, who looked like he hadn’t slept since Inauguration Day, and Matthew Whitaker, a former acting Attorney General who carries himself like a guy who still brags about his high school bench press record.

The setup was simple: Merkley had questions, and Landau and Whitaker had excuses — weak, sweaty excuses that couldn’t outrun a three-legged dog.

It didn’t take long for the whole thing to unravel. Merkley started calmly, like a guy setting mousetraps in a room full of blindfolded rats. Then the hammer dropped.

Senator Jeff Merkley: "I wanted to, uh... uh... ask you, Mr. Landau — is President Trump a Russian asset?"

That's how Merkley started — no warmup, no warning. Just kicked the door open and asked the question nobody else had the nerve to say out loud.

Mr. Landau: "Absolutely not, Senator. He's the President of the United States, duly elected by the American people."

Landau might as well have answered, "Please don't ask me anything else." Merkley wasn’t about to let him off that easy.

Senator Merkley: "Well, the reason I ask is many people back home have been asking me this question. And they say, 'If he was an asset, we would see exactly what he's doing now.'"

It’s the kind of thing that sounds conspiratorial until you start listing the evidence. And that’s exactly what Merkley did.

Senator Merkley: "For example... he proceeded to forward — or express from the Oval Office — propaganda that has been Russian propaganda... that Ukraine started the war... that, uh... Zelensky is a dictator."

Step one: repeat Kremlin talking points like they’re gospel.

Senator Merkley: "Second of all... he gave away key things on the negotiating table before the negotiations even started, ensuring the U.S. would absolutely oppose, um... any possibility of NATO membership for Ukraine."

That’s like showing up to a poker game and tossing your entire stack of chips across the table before the first card’s dealt.

Senator Merkley: "Uh... third... he's cut off the arms shipments to Ukraine completely — undermining their ability against a massive neighbor next door with short supply lines and... and huge resources."

Pause here and picture Vladimir Putin popping champagne.

Senator Merkley: "Fourth... he's undermined the partnership with Europe, which has been essential to security over the last 80 years — a major goal of Putin’s."

At this point, Merkley wasn’t describing bad policy — he was reading Putin’s wish list.

Senator Merkley: "And then... he's done everything to discredit and demean Zelensky on the international stage — notably with that shameful press conference in which he teamed up with the Vice President to attack Zelensky."

Ah yes, that infamous JD Vance press conference — the diplomatic equivalent of shoving Zelensky’s head in a toilet while Putin watched from the corner clapping like a seal.

Senator Merkley: "I can't imagine that if he was a Russian asset, he could be doing anything more favorable than these five points."

Boom. Merkley didn’t need to say “traitor” — he just pointed at the scoreboard.

Senator Merkley: "Uh... what else could a Russian asset actually possibly do that Trump hasn't yet done?"

What else, indeed? The room was dead silent — the kind of pause where you can hear chairs creak and paper shuffle.

Landau tried to squirm out.

Mr. Landau: "Senator, the President has made it absolutely clear that his top priority is to try to bring peace and end an absolutely savage war. I... I know you're familiar with the, uh... the... the savagery. This is turning into World War I-style trench warfare now in eastern Ukraine."

Translation: I have nothing, so let me ramble until you forget what you asked.

Mr. Landau: "The President is an exceptionally gifted dealmaker. He is probably the only individual in the entire universe that could actually stop this."

The entire universe. Not just Earth — the universe. Apparently Trump’s cutting side deals with Alpha Centauri now.

Senator Merkley: "Well, let's turn to another — thank you very much, since you're now off the topic I was raising."

That’s polite for “You're embarrassing yourself — let’s try someone else.”

Merkley turned to Whitaker.

Senator Merkley: "Mr. Whitaker, these five things that the President has done that are so favorable to Putin and so damaging to Ukraine and to our partnership with Europe... do you approve of them?"

Whitaker tried the old “blame Biden” routine.

Mr. Whitaker: "Well, Senator, thanks for that question. I'm just going to have to, uh... politely disagree with you, uh... on those five things and the way you've framed them."

"You know... the war in Ukraine would have never happened if President Trump was president in 2022. The war in Ukraine happened because of Joe Biden’s weakness."

Merkley didn’t flinch.

Senator Merkley: "Well, maybe you could some other time go on television and express those points of view, but... do you mind just answering the question I asked?"

And that’s where Whitaker realized he’d stepped into the bear trap.

Senator Merkley: "Do you agree with the five things that President Trump has done — starting with him expressing Russian propaganda from the Oval Office?"

Mr. Whitaker: "Well, you know... again, as I mentioned to your colleague, I am not here to assign labels. We're in the middle of a very, uh... important peace negotiation."

Senator Merkley: "I agree. Thank you. Uh... I... I do hope that we have an Administration that works to get the very best deal for Ukraine.

"But what a Russian asset would do would be to work to get the very best deal for Russia — and that appears to be exactly what Donald Trump is trying to accomplish."

Merkley didn’t shout. He didn’t wave his arms. He just said it — clear as glass — and let the silence hang heavy in the room.

Landau and Whitaker sat there like a couple of guys who’d just realized their GPS was guiding them into a lake.

If Trump isn’t a Russian asset, he’s sure putting in the effort to look like one.


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From the Senate confirmation hearing for Ambassador to Mexico. Lifted off Facebook. Personally, I do believe Trump is a Russian asset, to some degree.

Senator Jeff Merkley walked into the hearing room like a man who’d just been told his car got keyed and knew exactly who did it. On the other side of the table sat Christopher Landau, Trump’s nominee for Ambassador to Mexico, who looked like he hadn’t slept since Inauguration Day, and Matthew Whitaker, a former acting Attorney General who carries himself like a guy who still brags about his high school bench press record.

The setup was simple: Merkley had questions, and Landau and Whitaker had excuses — weak, sweaty excuses that couldn’t outrun a three-legged dog.

It didn’t take long for the whole thing to unravel. Merkley started calmly, like a guy setting mousetraps in a room full of blindfolded rats. Then the hammer dropped.

Senator Jeff Merkley: "I wanted to, uh... uh... ask you, Mr. Landau — is President Trump a Russian asset?"

That's how Merkley started — no warmup, no warning. Just kicked the door open and asked the question nobody else had the nerve to say out loud.

Mr. Landau: "Absolutely not, Senator. He's the President of the United States, duly elected by the American people."

Landau might as well have answered, "Please don't ask me anything else." Merkley wasn’t about to let him off that easy.

Senator Merkley: "Well, the reason I ask is many people back home have been asking me this question. And they say, 'If he was an asset, we would see exactly what he's doing now.'"

It’s the kind of thing that sounds conspiratorial until you start listing the evidence. And that’s exactly what Merkley did.

Senator Merkley: "For example... he proceeded to forward — or express from the Oval Office — propaganda that has been Russian propaganda... that Ukraine started the war... that, uh... Zelensky is a dictator."

Step one: repeat Kremlin talking points like they’re gospel.

Senator Merkley: "Second of all... he gave away key things on the negotiating table before the negotiations even started, ensuring the U.S. would absolutely oppose, um... any possibility of NATO membership for Ukraine."

That’s like showing up to a poker game and tossing your entire stack of chips across the table before the first card’s dealt.

Senator Merkley: "Uh... third... he's cut off the arms shipments to Ukraine completely — undermining their ability against a massive neighbor next door with short supply lines and... and huge resources."

Pause here and picture Vladimir Putin popping champagne.

Senator Merkley: "Fourth... he's undermined the partnership with Europe, which has been essential to security over the last 80 years — a major goal of Putin’s."

At this point, Merkley wasn’t describing bad policy — he was reading Putin’s wish list.

Senator Merkley: "And then... he's done everything to discredit and demean Zelensky on the international stage — notably with that shameful press conference in which he teamed up with the Vice President to attack Zelensky."

Ah yes, that infamous JD Vance press conference — the diplomatic equivalent of shoving Zelensky’s head in a toilet while Putin watched from the corner clapping like a seal.

Senator Merkley: "I can't imagine that if he was a Russian asset, he could be doing anything more favorable than these five points."

Boom. Merkley didn’t need to say “traitor” — he just pointed at the scoreboard.

Senator Merkley: "Uh... what else could a Russian asset actually possibly do that Trump hasn't yet done?"

What else, indeed? The room was dead silent — the kind of pause where you can hear chairs creak and paper shuffle.

Landau tried to squirm out.

Mr. Landau: "Senator, the President has made it absolutely clear that his top priority is to try to bring peace and end an absolutely savage war. I... I know you're familiar with the, uh... the... the savagery. This is turning into World War I-style trench warfare now in eastern Ukraine."

Translation: I have nothing, so let me ramble until you forget what you asked.

Mr. Landau: "The President is an exceptionally gifted dealmaker. He is probably the only individual in the entire universe that could actually stop this."

The entire universe. Not just Earth — the universe. Apparently Trump’s cutting side deals with Alpha Centauri now.

Senator Merkley: "Well, let's turn to another — thank you very much, since you're now off the topic I was raising."

That’s polite for “You're embarrassing yourself — let’s try someone else.”

Merkley turned to Whitaker.

Senator Merkley: "Mr. Whitaker, these five things that the President has done that are so favorable to Putin and so damaging to Ukraine and to our partnership with Europe... do you approve of them?"

Whitaker tried the old “blame Biden” routine.

Mr. Whitaker: "Well, Senator, thanks for that question. I'm just going to have to, uh... politely disagree with you, uh... on those five things and the way you've framed them."

"You know... the war in Ukraine would have never happened if President Trump was president in 2022. The war in Ukraine happened because of Joe Biden’s weakness."

Merkley didn’t flinch.

Senator Merkley: "Well, maybe you could some other time go on television and express those points of view, but... do you mind just answering the question I asked?"

And that’s where Whitaker realized he’d stepped into the bear trap.

Senator Merkley: "Do you agree with the five things that President Trump has done — starting with him expressing Russian propaganda from the Oval Office?"

Mr. Whitaker: "Well, you know... again, as I mentioned to your colleague, I am not here to assign labels. We're in the middle of a very, uh... important peace negotiation."

Senator Merkley: "I agree. Thank you. Uh... I... I do hope that we have an Administration that works to get the very best deal for Ukraine.

"But what a Russian asset would do would be to work to get the very best deal for Russia — and that appears to be exactly what Donald Trump is trying to accomplish."

Merkley didn’t shout. He didn’t wave his arms. He just said it — clear as glass — and let the silence hang heavy in the room.

Landau and Whitaker sat there like a couple of guys who’d just realized their GPS was guiding them into a lake.

If Trump isn’t a Russian asset, he’s sure putting in the effort to look like one.


View: https://x.com/Donald_from_HI/status/1897553442899378263

That's awesome but I wish he would go even further and talk about pre politician trump and his ties to Russia. Bring up the fact that trump sold a $60 million mansion to a Russian oligarch known for money laundering for $120 million that he never once lived in.
Bring up how Russians guaranteed sales of Trump properties so he could get financial backing.
Bring up how sales of Trump properties to LLCs (who can hide their identity) went rom 4% to 70% in the two years leading up to the election.
Bring up the fact that Ivanka trump went on vacation with Putin's girlfriend.
Bring up the trump companies business ties to Felix Sater, a criminal felon indicted for stock fraud scheme with the Russian mafia.
Bring up the fact that trump tried to roll back Russian sanctions the minute he got elected.
Bring up Eric trumps quote "we get most of our financing from Russian banks"
Bring up Donald trump jr's quote "Our portfolio is made up of a disproportionate amount of Russian money"
Point out the fact that trump chose to hold the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow.
Point out that the Mueller investigation did in fact prove that Russia helped trump win the 2016 election and that many people in the trump campaign were convicted of crimes from that investigation.
And on and on.

He should have laid it all out there.
 
The more I watch things unfolding under current Trump regime with -Russia-Ukraine situation, the more I have extreme despise, hate and malicious thoughts over the fascists in America on their power trip. I don't have to say what I hope will happen to them. I don't want to hear about any of them, ever again, and there's only one way to achieve that. I'm waking up every morning to hope seeing that kind of news... News that would save so many Ukrainian lives. And frankly, so many American lives as well
 


 
And you can wait for a century and nothing will change. Their identity is too tied up with him. They’ll do anything (destroy relationships, careers, or even kill themselves) rather than admit that liberals were right.
Some things change. People do adjust their views, and sometimes reverse them 180 degrees, but I think you are correct that Conservatives will never see pushing gay stuff on other people's kids against their parent's wishes as acceptable.
 
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July 1987, Moscow, USSR — Trump, 41 years old, flies to Moscow at the invitation of Soviet Ambassador to the U.S., Yuri Dubinin.

Upon returning from Moscow, the bankrupt Trump suddenly receives loans from 16 banks and, without negotiation, purchases The Plaza Hotel for $407.5 million — a record price for a hotel.

What does this mean? There are several theories, one of which suggests that Trump is a russian asset.

Currently, three former KGB agents claim that Trump was recruited by russia. They allege that the KGB used flattery and business opportunities to appeal to Trump’s ambitions, aiming to recruit him as an asset.

Upon his return to the U.S., the then-apolitical Trump began loudly criticizing NATO, taking out full-page ads in The Washington Post on September 2, 1987.

These claims come from Alnur Mussayev, former KGB officer and ex-head of Kazakhstan’s intelligence service, as well as ex-KGB agents Yuri Shvets and Sergei Zhyrno, who now reside in the U.S. and France, respectively.

None of these former KGB operatives has provided direct evidence, but the fact that three agents, speaking at different times and from different locations, tell the same story suggests that the possibility should not be dismissed.

Regardless of whether these allegations are true, Trump’s behavior is telling. He has sided with russia and North Korea at the UN, seemingly wants out of NATO, and has alienated Western allies with trade wars.
 
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July 1987, Moscow, USSR — Trump, 41 years old, flies to Moscow at the invitation of Soviet Ambassador to the U.S., Yuri Dubinin.

Upon returning from Moscow, the bankrupt Trump suddenly receives loans from 16 banks and, without negotiation, purchases The Plaza Hotel for $407.5 million — a record price for a hotel.

What does this mean? There are several theories, one of which suggests that Trump is a russian asset.

Currently, three former KGB agents claim that Trump was recruited by russia. They allege that the KGB used flattery and business opportunities to appeal to Trump’s ambitions, aiming to recruit him as an asset.

Upon his return to the U.S., the then-apolitical Trump began loudly criticizing NATO, taking out full-page ads in The Washington Post on September 2, 1987.

These claims come from Alnur Mussayev, former KGB officer and ex-head of Kazakhstan’s intelligence service, as well as ex-KGB agents Yuri Shvets and Sergei Zhyrno, who now reside in the U.S. and France, respectively.

None of these former KGB operatives has provided direct evidence, but the fact that three agents, speaking at different times and from different locations, tell the same story suggests that the possibility should not be dismissed.

Regardless of whether these allegations are true, Trump’s behavior is telling. He has sided with russia and North Korea at the UN, is pulling out of NATO, and has alienated Western allies with trade wars.
Trump is officially pulling out of NATO?
 
Trump is officially pulling out of NATO?
I dont think so. Seems to want to though. I will edit. That was a post I saw from someone else fwiw.
 
I dont think so. Seems to want to though. I will edit. That was a post I saw from someone else fwiw.
I know he has teased it. It would be the absolutely dumbest thing (as I say that I wonder if I am underestimating Trump's potential for stupidity) Trump could do.

I've said it before, NATO is an alliance made by the U.S. for the U.S.. It provides geographic advantages to us. It provides intelligence advantages to us. It boosts our military capability in an indirect way by about 30%.

NATO is governed at all times at the very top by a U.S. military leader.

The only countries who don't like NATO are China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. Yet Trump doesn't like NATO.

Trump is a Russian *** hat... err, I mean asset.
 

Fiona Hill, a former senior National Security Council official and expert on European and Russian affairs, has revealed new insights into President Donald Trump’s previous interactions with Russian President Vladimir Putin — and how she believes Putin actually mocked Trump during their exchanges.

In a lengthy interview with Foreign Affairs released Thursday, Hill described Trump as unprepared for meetings with his Russian counterpart and overly fixated on personal interactions rather than diplomatic strategy.

“The very first time I was in one of the phone calls with Putin, I was listening very carefully to the Russian, because the interpreters don’t always capture everything, they don’t capture the nuances, particularly when it’s the Russian interpreter who’s translating into a language that’s also not their native language, all kinds of things are missing,” she remembered.

“There was all kinds of menace in what Putin had said, he chooses his words very carefully,” she explained.

“Many times when Putin and Trump are interacting, Putin’s actually making fun of him,” she continued. “It’s just it’s completely lost in the translation. I can give lots of episodes of this, or he’s goading him and urging him on to something, because he’s trying to see how he’ll react and the translation smooths over all that. That context is absolutely missing. And he doesn’t do a readout afterwards.”

“All of this is amateur hour,” added Hill, who is now a senior foreign policy fellowon the U.S. and Europe at Washington-based think tank Brookings.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxfrJ5smAU8
 
I remember one of the russian troll farm employees who is active on this site telling me how zelensky is a dictator who just wants the war to continue. Well, Zelensky agreed to a ceasefire without any demands and without getting anything he wanted other than a ceasefire.
Putin on the other hand has a list of demands that must be met before he will agree to any ceasefire.
And of course, once again, trump is repeating Putin and russias propaganda and believing their information over the information from our own intelligence. SSDD

Vladimir Putin said Ukraine must surrender after President Donald Trump urged the Russian leader to spare the lives of Ukrainian soldiers, following ceasefire talks between the U.S. and Russia in Moscow.

trump also claimed that thousands of Ukrainian soldiers are surrounded.

"AT THIS VERY MOMENT, THOUSANDS OF UKRAINIAN TROOPS ARE COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY THE RUSSIAN MILITARY, AND IN A VERY BAD AND VULNERABLE POSITION," he said.

"I have strongly requested to President Putin that their lives be spared. This would be a horrible massacre, one not seen since World War II," he added.

Trump seemed to be referring to the sticking point in Russia's Kursk region, something Putin has discussed as an issue in the talks. He also appeared to echo remarks Putin made in response to the U.S.-Ukraine ceasefire proposal on Thursday that Ukrainian troops are encircled in Kursk -- a scenario Ukraine strongly denied.

Putin responded to Trump's remarks on Friday, saying the soldiers need to surrender to be spared.

"[In] the event of a ceasefire and surrender, they will be guaranteed life and a worthy treatment in accordance with the norms of international law and the laws of the Russian Federation," he said. (the laws of the russian federation lol)

Ukraine pushed back Friday against the claims that its troops are surrounded in the Kursk region, where Putin this week ordered forces to "destroy" all Ukrainian formations remaining in the contested border region.

"The reports about the supposed 'encirclement' of Ukrainian units in the Kursk region are false and are being fabricated by the Russians for political purposes and to put pressure on Ukraine and its partners," the general staff of the Ukrainian armed forces said in a statement on Friday.

"The threat of encirclement of our units is absent," it added.

"Putin is lying about the real situation on the battlefield, he is lying about the casualties, he is lying about the true state of his economy, which has been damaged by his foolish imperial ambitions, and he is doing everything possible to ensure that diplomacy fails," he said.

"Putin is now doing everything he can to sabotage diplomacy by setting extremely difficult and unacceptable conditions right from the start even before a ceasefire."

The claim that Ukrainian forces are surrounded was also shot down by defense analyst Michael Kofman, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment who focuses on the Russian and Ukrainian militaries, who called it "simply untrue."

George Barros, the Russian team lead for the Washington, D.C.-based Institute for the Study of War, also reacted on X to Trump's remarks, saying, "Available evidence from the battlefield does not indicate any Russian encirclements of Ukrainian forces at scale, and certainly not by the thousands."

During a visit to a command center in Kursk on Wednesday while clad in military fatigues, Putin said, "Your task is to completely destroy the enemy, which has entrenched itself in the Kursk region and is still conducting warfare here, and fully liberate the Kursk region's territory within the shortest possible time."

Russian advances to the border in the Kursk Oblast appeared to have slowed on Thursday compared to recent days, according to the latest assessment from the Institute for the Study of War.

The general staff of the Ukrainian armed forces said Friday that the situation "has not undergone significant changes over the past day," and that troops are "regrouping" and have withdrawn to "more advantageous defense lines."

"Our soldiers are repelling enemy offensive actions and delivering effective fire damage with all types of weapons," it said.

Russian officials have indicated they will not engage in peace negotiations while any of Kursk remains under Ukrainian control.
 
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