The Official: Trade Conley and Exum for Lillard.

[checkbookdoc]

I’m in the **** or get off the pot camp as far as Exum is concerned. Give him minutes and let him develop. Or ship him off. His numbers in December before he got hurt were very promising. He had a game with 13 assists. Running the offense was becoming easier for him. So it’s hard to understand why he stands in the corner all the time. He was our best guard for throwing lobs to Favors. You’d have to think he could find some success with Green, Bradley and Gobert. I’m just puzzled as to why invest so much time and money in him. When he is on the floor he seldom touches the ball. Put him in a position to succeed or cut bait.

The problem is that his time to develop was when we were a rising team, not now when we are in win now mode. The question isn't if he could find some success in the rotation, it is if he would be better than the players who are ahead of him. At this point all the players ahead of him are better at winning, so if he wants to be in the rotation he is going to have to wait for an injury (which always come). The fact that Jazz put time, money and resources into developing Exum doesn't matter (sunk costs). Also, he has been injury prone, so why rush him back into action.

As for why Jazz don't trade him, it is because nobody wants him. He is clearly a negative value contract, so to get rid of him now we would have to give up an asset or be willing to take on some other negative value contract. He isn't really going to drop in value, so might as well see if at some point his value can come up a little.

 

[Wineo]

I’m in the **** or get off the pot camp as far as Exum is concerned. Give him minutes and let him develop. Or ship him off. His numbers in December before he got hurt were very promising. He had a game with 13 assists. Running the offense was becoming easier for him. So it’s hard to understand why he stands in the corner all the time. He was our best guard for throwing lobs to Favors. You’d have to think he could find some success with Green, Bradley and Gobert. I’m just puzzled as to why invest so much time and money in him. When he is on the floor he seldom touches the ball. Put him in a position to succeed or cut bait.

I just don't understand it, to me quin doesn't know how to coach him, it's been 5 yrs.
He needs to move on and get a opportunity somewhere else, as it want happen in Utah.
Dantes upside won't happen under quin

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Throw in a pick or 2. Who cares. We need to win now with who we have. Conley can't shoot and Lillard is averaging 25+, they're losing and will probably want to get out of his contract with continual losses piling up.

Brilliant!! Let’s trade those first round picks we don’t have. Why in the hell didn’t I think of that

Let's trade Shad + magic for some nachos and a $10 Amazon gift card.

There’s a better chance we could trade Conley for Lillard.

I'm on board with this. If Exum can't get quality minutes in the next month, we gotta move on. Mudiay is exceeding expectations and Conley isn't going anywhere.

We could use more quality front court depth. Maybe something like Exum and a throw in salary for Taj Gibson and Frank Nkilitina. The Knicks might be willing to gamble on Exum's upside while Taj and Frank are unnecessary going forward.

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What upside? Holy ****!! You need a reality check.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Conley and Exum plus some picks for Lillard huh... Did David Kahn or Isiah Thomas take over as GM there?

 

[Wineo]

doesn't matter who we trade for,can we eliminate the Lakers, clippers, rockets, nuggets.
we keep upgrading, when we could be developing around Rudy and donovan to take a big run at it in 2 yrs or we won't make it pass round 2.
everyone quin has had at point guard has moved on to a bench role around the league
shelvin Mack- swear he played him to keep gordon happy
Raul Neto- keep Rudy happy
George Hill- wanted too much money
Ricky Rubio- see ya
Michael Conley - wait and see
Dante Exum - Benched

sad I don't have faith in quin

 

[Jazz]

I just don't understand it, to me quin doesn't know how to coach him, it's been 5 yrs.
He needs to move on and get a opportunity somewhere else, as it want happen in Utah.
Dantes upside won't happen under quin

Dante plays his best when he has the ball in his hands. Besides 1 month when he played his best basketball he's ever played. He's never had the chance. He was killing the opposition last year. As well before he came to Utah. Dante was a volume shooter. He was never gun shy to shoot. He would shoot the 3 and make the pull up. Since he got to Utah I'm telling U he's scared to shoot. The Question is what happened? I'll be honest the jazz ****ed his confidence to shoot. I fully blame the jazz for this. He needs to be told just play who cares if U miss. Besides these injuries that have definitely held him back. Quin and the jazz have ****ed his confidence to shoot.

 

[Jazz]

So the people U blame for Dante in regards to his shot are
1 injuries
2 Quin snyder
3 Gordon Hayward cause I believe he was telling the jazz what to do whilst he was there. Telling them not to play Dante.

 

[infection]

Dante plays his best when he has the ball in his hands. Besides 1 month when he played his best basketball he's ever played. He's never had the chance. He was killing the opposition last year. As well before he came to Utah. Dante was a volume shooter. He was never gun shy to shoot. He would shoot the 3 and make the pull up. Since he got to Utah I'm telling U he's scared to shoot. The Question is what happened? I'll be honest the jazz ****ed his confidence to shoot. I fully blame the jazz for this. He needs to be told just play who cares if U miss. Besides these injuries that have definitely held him back. Quin and the jazz have ****ed his confidence to shoot.

So he was a confident shooter in Australian high school and, you know, that surely carries over to the NBA, so it must be Quin.

You've heard of DeShawn Stevenson, no?

 

[Wineo]

So the people U blame for Dante in regards to his shot are
1 injuries
2 Quin snyder
3 Gordon Hayward cause I believe he was telling the jazz what to do whilst he was there. Telling them not to play Dante.

exactly, his best mate is shelvin, where is shelvin now

 

[Jazz]

So he was a confident shooter in Australian high school and, you know, that surely carries over to the NBA, so it must be Quin.

You've heard of DeShawn Stevenson, no?

U tell me if someone never wants to shoot the pull up or looks nervous to shoot the ball. But this same person would shoot all the time before he got to the jazz. Level doesn't matter in regards to wanting to shoot.

 

[Wineo]

U tell me if someone never wants to shoot the pull up or looks nervous to shoot the ball. But this same person would shoot all the time before he got to the jazz. Level doesn't matter in regards to wanting to shoot.

remember he got dragged straight away when donovan or royce don't.
it's all about learning when your out there and if you get dragged u can't.
sooner exum gone the better

 

[infection]

U tell me if someone never wants to shoot the pull up or looks nervous to shoot the ball. But this same person would shoot all the time before he got to the jazz. Level doesn't matter in regards to wanting to shoot.

This shows that you're clearly not watching the NBA outside of Australian players. That or you're blinding yourself to the reality that shooting confidently in high school (in Australia, no less) is the same as shooting at the NBA level. Lots of guys go from being go-to guys in college and shoot confidently, to being considered not offensive guys in the NBA. And that's college -- not high school. I don't think it's worth typing more than that.

 

[Jazz]

This shows that you're clearly not watching the NBA outside of Australian players. That or you're blinding yourself to the reality that shooting confidently in high school (in Australia, no less) is the same as shooting at the NBA level. Lots of guys go from being go-to guys in college and shoot confidently, to being considered not offensive guys in the NBA. And that's college -- not high school. I don't think it's worth typing more than that.

You're missing the point... He doesn't even have the confidence to shoot......

 

[MVP]

. Put him in a position to succeed or cut bait.

Are we talking Jazz's success or Exum's? Because if it is about the Jazz Exum is in exact position for us to succeed - on the bench.

 

[infection]

You're missing the point... He doesn't even have the confidence to shoot......

And he’s such a beast that Quin has him scared.

 

[MVP]

TThat or you're blinding yourself to the reality that shooting confidently in high school (in Australia, no less) is the same as shooting at the NBA level

He could not shoot in Australia either.

 

[Wineo]

Are we talking Jazz's success or Exum's? Because if it is about the Jazz Exum is in exact position for us to succeed - on the bench.

we will just have to wait and see, but under quin there will be no success, do u honestly believe Donovan is going to stay in Utah where he can go to New York, Los Angeles or Boston and make a lot more money and have success.
The only success the jazz will have will be getting to the second round under Quin.
Move away from Quinn and there is a chance

 

[BigRigs33]

Why?? Are you trolling or is this serious? There is no way in hell the Blazers go for this. Cmon Jazz fans, we can do better.


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[Dali]

There has been one occasion where the Jazz told Dante to go out there and be 'that' dude.

In that summer league where the Jazz challenged him to be the best player on the court, in all 3 of his summer league games. He averaged 20/5/5. I know, its summer league, but regardless, he was asked to be the man. He shot more off the dribble shots in a few minutes than he had all previous season , and even had David Locke gushing on the fact that he was actually doing it. He was making them too. At that point, I saw the Dante that I was accustomed to seeing before he got drafted. I said to myself, where has this Dante been?

Lets not forget, Donovan Mitchell was the worst rookie in history, in his 2 to 3 week play at the beginning of the season, but he was afforded that time, and for good reason, because now we are bearing fruit. He was allowed to make every mistake possible, and boy did he make them. Dante wasn't allowed, that's not up for debate. He wasn't allowed, for good reason or bad reason, he wasn't afforded the same.

Injuries are to blame as the top reason for his development, or lack of. Then Quin, the coaching staff, and Dante himself are to blame after that. You cannot absolve blame from any of them, and like I just mentioned, that includes Dante himself.

EDIT: On topic though, I would snatch their hand for this trade.

 

[Jingled]

@Wineo and @Jazz have to be the same person, right?