the real terroist the: TSA

[DutchJazzer]

the real terrorist the: TSA

so some frineds are mine ar egoing over for the hollidays to miami. i was supposed to go with them but i refuse to let my fingerp[rints be taken. i refuse to be treated like a criminal.

but its actually worse than i thought
cus apparantly if you lock ur luggage they can break it open and you cant claim damages.
so now if you lcok ur bagage your a criminal. wow really. so i couldnt believe my ears?
so i searched it online seems its been going on for years.
in america? really the land of the free and brave or whatever?

wow. good thing I chose not to go. but probably it wont matter in the larger scheme.

its jsut that i dont want all that hassle and such for a holiday. im supposed to be realxing on holiday nto stressing about pat downs, my unlocked bag, getting treated like a criminal fingerprinting, maybe even stripping down nude and ****. too stressfull. i'd relax more by going to the dojo ro playing me some call of duty


ps remember our aprnets used to say dont let strangers touch you in private places, guess parents nowadays have to say dont let strangers touch you in private places unless he wroks for the goverment.

just felt like venting

 

[bigb]

Good hell, that was harder to read than Hopper's crap.

 

[DutchJazzer]

sorry since my main language is not english. its even harder to put my thoughts down in the english language.

I have a sugegstion i could write it down in one of my 2 native languages and u use google translate would that suite you

 

[moevillini]

Good hell, that was harder to read than Hopper's crap.

LOL, IAWTP


and Dutch, usually you do OK with your English in your posts, I think that one in particular had more typos than usual

 

[DutchJazzer]

LOL, IAWTP


and Dutch, usually you do OK with your English in your posts, I think that one in particular had more typos than usual

lol ooh typos i do in every language. the keyboard keys seem to small for my fingers. and i recently formated all my pc reinstalled windows et al. but still need to instal the spelling check. probably will do that when i need to type some official error free document

 

[Duck Rodgers]

Almost correct,

The real terrorist: The United States Government and the world's collective secret intelligence apparatus. It's funny that a few patsies that are borderline retarded are the pretext for criminal searches on the American people.

 

[DutchJazzer]

so any of you flying with the new policy. of having all those clerks go all "kobe bryant in colorado" on you guys?

 

[Chad Feldheimer]

 

[Gameface]

so any of you flying with the new policy. of having all those clerks go all "kobe bryant in colorado" on you guys?

I don't have any plans to fly anytime soon, but a x-ray or pat down wouldn't stop me or concern me all too much. In other words, you can go ahead and touch my junk if you want to.

 

[VINYLONE]

I just recently read some of the articles out there...

A lot of it is blatant hyperbole. And of course the media is going to focus on the negative experiences. That said, the practices that have been instituted are pretty insane.

 

[GVC]

Follow the money.

 

[Marty McFly]

I have no problem with people seeing me naked on the screen. America is pathetic.

 

[TroutBum]

I feel the same way about this as I do the AZ immigration law. Who cares if it inconveniences some people? If it stops just ONE SINGLE dumbass from taking a bomb on a plane and killing hundreds of people, then it really is worth it. If you're not breaking any laws, then who gives a flying ****?

 

[VINYLONE]

I feel the same way about this as I do the AZ immigration law. Who cares if it inconveniences some people? If it stops just ONE SINGLE dumbass from taking a bomb on a plane and killing hundreds of people, then it really is worth it. If you're not breaking any laws, then who gives a flying ****?

I think some people are against it on the basis of personal freedom. Meaning, as a US citizen, I have the right to move freely within my country as long as I can demonstrate proof of citizenship and have demonstrated no reasonable cause to be detained. Right?

I mean, what did your boy Franklin say: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

What else are you willing to give up Dave? At what point do you, personally, say they've gone too far?

 

[Gameface]

I think some people are against it on the basis of personal freedom. Meaning, as a US citizen, I have the right to move freely within my country as long as I can demonstrate proof of citizenship and have demonstrated no reasonable cause to be detained. Right?

I mean, what did your boy Franklin say: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

What else are you willing to give up Dave? At what point do you, personally, say they've gone too far?

I'm all for freedom. Hell, I'm a freedom fanatic. Anyway, flying on a comercial airliner requires an agreement between the passenger and the carrier. Part of that agreement is compliance with safety checks. If you don't want to comply with the safety procesedures then fly your own damn airplane or find another means of transportation. You do not have a right to board a comercial aircraft on your own terms. It is not your aircraft and there will be hundreds of other people aboard that plane. This is not a freedom issue, or a privacy issue.

What would be a violation of freedom would be to force comercial ailines to allow people to board their planes without allowing the airline to make sure that those people did not pose a threat to that aircraft, their other customers and their employees. Not to mention the liability they would face if by not taking reasonsble precautions their aircraft was used as a manned missile to take out, I don't know, a large building in the middle of a large city.

 

[VINYLONE]

Interesting perspective. Is there an underlying concept of freedom that maybe you're not touching on? Or are you, personally, will to submit to whatever is asked of you?

 

[dodo]

I don't have any plans to fly anytime soon, but a x-ray or pat down wouldn't stop me or concern me all too much. In other words, you can go ahead and touch my junk if you want to.

And you are fine some 50 year old dude touching your daughter's private parts, right?

 

[VINYLONE]

And you are fine some 50 year old dude touching your daughter's private parts, right?

If she's not doing anything illegal, of course not. Hell, Im sure he would allow me to touch his daugthers privates if I was doing it in the name of security.

 

[Bronco70]

I think some people are against it on the basis of personal freedom. Meaning, as a US citizen, I have the right to move freely within my country as long as I can demonstrate proof of citizenship and have demonstrated no reasonable cause to be detained. Right?

Your right to move about the country isn't being impeded.

I mean, what did your boy Franklin say: They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Please explain what essential liberty is being forfeited. Convenience?

 

[Gameface]

Interesting perspective. Is there an underlying concept of freedom that maybe you're not touching on? Or are you, personally, will to submit to whatever is asked of you?

No, if I felt that the procedures were over the top I would find a different form of transportation. An x-ray or pat down is not a big deal to me. I have performed pat downs on fellow members of the Navy as well as stinky truck drivers driving trucks that our ship dumped it's sewage into. Pat downs can be somewhat uncomfortable, but they are done in such a way as that you are not fondling the person's junk, at the most you are brushing against it with the back of your hand.