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The Return of AB

ncoloradojazz said:
AB just a rotation guy buy Favors is an allstar and Gobert is a future hall of famer and Hayward is a future all star,, Yall havee zero bball iq. Anytime any of you clowns are in Colorado and want to test my knowledge of the game I love meet me at the court with cash and put your money where your big mouths are, Cuz i do. I back my **** and willing to prove it
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Careful ya'll. We got an OG here.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
AB just a rotation guy buy Favors is an allstar and Gobert is a future hall of famer and Hayward is a future all star,, Yall havee zero bball iq. Anytime any of you clowns are in Colorado and want to test my knowledge of the game I love meet me at the court with cash and put your money where your big mouths are, Cuz i do. I back my **** and willing to prove it
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um. ok lol


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LogGrad98 said:
Where they end up at the end of their rookie year is kind of the baseline that all future improvement is measured from, where it all starts so to say. Hood has a higher base than Burks.
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so many things are wrong with this logic, you have to be trolling, knowing what you know about coaches, opportunities, rookie ages, teammates, etc.

Cunning Linguist said:
I don't think so. Start Hood. His fit is perfect with the starters and Burks is more go the pure instant offense 6th man.
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We haven't really seen Burks in the new system, because of health, and when we changed team identity, so... Also, there is a lot of value to having Hood off the bench. He is offensively gifted, and Quin can trust him 100% to calm the other youngins and run the system, plus a year of dominating second units will likely build his confidence very high.


I'll be happy with whoever starts. It really is a win/win. It could be argued for either at this point.
 
Sexual Favors said:
so many things are wrong with this logic, you have to be trolling, knowing what you know about coaches, opportunities, rookie ages, teammates, etc.



We haven't really seen Burks in the new system, because of health, and when we changed team identity, so... Also, there is a lot of value to having Hood off the bench. He is offensively gifted, and Quin can trust him 100% to calm the other youngins and run the system, plus a year of dominating second units will likely build his confidence very high.


I'll be happy with whoever starts. It really is a win/win. It could be argued for either at this point.
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Why is that wrong?
 
Sexual Favors said:
You saying Burks needs more than 27 games of shooting the 3 well is funny, considering your stance. We have a small size on Hood. Alec also shot pretty decent from 3 in 13'-14'. His career trajectory is ab upward climb year after year. I too like Hood a lot, and have extremely high hopes for him, but lets not act like we have a huge NBA sample size on him just yet. He was great at the end of last year, but Alec has also done a lot of improving, and is more proven in the NBA. Training camp, and preseason will be very interesting. This, my friends, is an awesome problem to have. W/ Alec injured and out, and Hood injured and a rookie, our SG production sucked last year. Now we have two guys who look more than capable, w/o hitting the market.
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You're missing my point. I believe, due to potential spacing issues with Favors & Gobert in the frontcourt, that the starting lineup needs a volume 3-pt shooter at SG. I'm not trying to discredit Burks' improving 3-pt shot, I just believe that Hood is more capable of providing what I believe that the starting lineup will need out of it's SG. I'm not pretending to have a large sample size on Hood, but I do believe that you have to take the samples that we do have into account.

(Per 36 mins)

Hood (1st year):
1,064 minutes played
.365% 3-pt
5.8 attempts

Burks (4th year):
899 minutes played
.382% 3-pt
2.7 attempts

To me, those #'s show me 2 things:

1) Burks, while putting up a better percentage, did so in less minutes & on less than half the attempts which proves that he is not capable of being the volume 3-pt shooter that Hood is.

2) Hood shot .017% worse in his 1st year in the league on more than double the attempts, which proves that he has more potential than Burks as a volume 3-pt shooter.

None of this is meant as a knock on Burks & I respect your opinion if you disagree that the starting lineup needs an additional volume 3-pt shooter along with Hayward. I just think you may have misunderstood the point I was trying to make, which is that Hood is a better fit in the starting lineup (although that could change depending on who the starting PG ends up being).

Edit: After reading the rest of your responses, I agree that age & situation has to be taken into account, but I don't believe that it changes the fact that Burks game will always be based off of attacking the rim while Hood will always be more of a pure shooter.
 
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ncoloradojazz said:
AB just a rotation guy buy Favors is an allstar and Gobert is a future hall of famer and Hayward is a future all star,, Yall havee zero bball iq. Anytime any of you clowns are in Colorado and want to test my knowledge of the game I love meet me at the court with cash and put your money where your big mouths are, Cuz i do. I back my **** and willing to prove it
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I agree that the starting unit could really use a volume 3 point shooter and that hood is/will always be the better shooter.

I also think that the starting unit needs someone who can break down the defense at will and get to the line for easy points (while getting the opponents starters in foul trouble)
I think Burks would be better suited for that.

I also think that the jazz need to run allot more (since their defense should force allot of misses and turnovers).
Burks would probably be better in the open court. (Though hood is no slouch there either)
 
fishonjazz said:
I agree that the starting unit could really use a volume 3 point shooter and that hood is/will always be the better shooter.

I also think that the starting unit needs someone who can break down the defense at will and get to the line for easy points (while getting the opponents starters in foul trouble)
I think Burks would be better suited for that.

I also think that the jazz need to run allot more (since their defense should force allot of misses and turnovers).
Burks would probably be better in the open court. (Though hood is no slouch there either)
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I'm not sure you can ever have too many slashers so I'm not saying one's enough but Hayward is that guy too. He was 11th (I think) in the NBA in free throw attempts last year and second in FTA's in the 4th quarter.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I'm not sure you can ever have too many slashers so I'm not saying one's enough but Hayward is that guy too. He was 11th (I think) in the NBA in free throw attempts last year and second in FTA's in the 4th quarter.
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Good point.

Starters probably could use hood more than Burks.
I still want Burks to start though.
 
fishonjazz said:
I agree that the starting unit could really use a volume 3 point shooter and that hood is/will always be the better shooter.

I also think that the starting unit needs someone who can break down the defense at will and get to the line for easy points (while getting the opponents starters in foul trouble)
I think Burks would be better suited for that.

I also think that the jazz need to run allot more (since their defense should force allot of misses and turnovers).
Burks would probably be better in the open court. (Though hood is no slouch there either)
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I agree with a lot of what you said, but I believe that the starting unit needs another volume shooter more so than it does another slasher (although that could change depending on who our starting PG is). I also believe that having Burks & Hayward in the lineup together isn't ideal as they are both most affective with the ball in their hands. I agree that the team will look to run more in transition but don't see Hood preventing them from doing so. Either way, we're lucky to have the problem of deciding who starts between two starting caliber players.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
I'm not sure you can ever have too many slashers so I'm not saying one's enough but Hayward is that guy too. He was 11th (I think) in the NBA in free throw attempts last year and second in FTA's in the 4th quarter.
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Agree.
Also think if Trey starts at PG, then there may be too many cooks in the kitchen if Burks starts. You'd have three ball dominant guys in Burke, Burks and Hayward. Though Hood is certainly capable of running the offense, he can also float out to the 3PT line and burn teams outside. He doesn't need t handle the ball a lot to be successful.

Quin should sell Burks on coming off the bench to lead the 2nd unit and be the primary option.
 
Hayward being the second most free throw shooting player in fourth quarters is pretty amazing. What's happening there?


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Stifle Tower said:
Agree.
Also think if Trey starts at PG, then there may be too many cooks in the kitchen if Burks starts. You'd have three ball dominant guys in Burke, Burks and Hayward. Though Hood is certainly capable of running the offense, he can also float out to the 3PT line and burn teams outside. He doesn't need t handle the ball a lot to be successful.

Quin should sell Burks on coming off the bench to lead the 2nd unit and be the primary option.
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Don't think this is going to happen, nor should it. Let's see how Burks 3PT is this year... but mainly, he can slash and finish at the rim...
Also, your point that we have three ball dominant guys... and Burke being one of them, is the problem... not that Burks should play bench...
Maybe Burks will develop into our killer 6th Man, being main scorer off bench... but don't think Quin will push him to this role because Burke can't play smart/efficient ball.
 
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