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The summer of 2016: The Rudy Gobert Extension

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French agent Bouna Ndiaye is moving to Salt Lake City on Saturday to start contract extension negotiations for Rudy Gobert.

21 mins ago – via L'Equipe
Bouna Ndiaye: “If what they have in mind is close to what we hope, this could go real fast.”
 
Just read this... so, they'll use cap space to extend Gobert instead of Favors?
Any guess on how this works? Heard Locke talking about mechanics... but he never mentioned Rudy as possibility.

Article says 5 year $143M max target... ouch.
 
Rudy is one of the players I would hate to see on another team. Hopefully this negotiations go as quickly as possible.
 
Imo it makes no sense to bid against themselves this summer. Even if he's signing a 4 year offer with a PO in the last year elsewhere next summer, we can still match and have him age 25-28 guaranteed. Players with his size and skill level rarely age graciously. Having to renegotiate with him in 2020 after an opt out or 2021 after he fulfills a 4 year max has him back on the market at age 28/29. You can then still give him another 5 years below the max depending on his production. Right now you pay the max because of projected upside. If you give him a 5 year max right now he'll be back on the free agent market at age 30. You won't wanna give him another 5 years then and if against all odds he can preserve his performance through age 30, he'll be up for another payday that will look really bad.
 
Seems a bit early.
 
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But his agent when read "Mozgov 65 milion" thinks "lets do it now, i want money too"
 
Jazz likely want to avoid a Hayward-like scenario. Right now, they extend him on a 25% deal, IINM. If he hit the market as an UFA, his agent would ask for an opt out after 3 seasons. Why? Because as a 7-yr vet at that time, he'd be eligible for a 30% contract. So Jazz get a couple of seasons at the lower percentage (hopefully). And they ensure he stays in Utah.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Jazz likely want to avoid a Hayward-like scenario. Right now, they extend him on a 25% deal, IINM. If he hit the market as an UFA, his agent would ask for an opt out after 3 seasons. Why? Because as a 7-yr vet at that time, he'd be eligible for a 30% contract. So Jazz get a couple of seasons at the lower percentage (hopefully). And they ensure he stays in Utah.
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Thanks for that explanation. That makes sense for both sides right now.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Jazz likely want to avoid a Hayward-like scenario. Right now, they extend him on a 25% deal, IINM. If he hit the market as an UFA, his agent would ask for an opt out after 3 seasons. Why? Because as a 7-yr vet at that time, he'd be eligible for a 30% contract. So Jazz get a couple of seasons at the lower percentage (hopefully). And they ensure he stays in Utah.
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The max deal would still be the adjusted 25% of next year's cap as year 1 salary. With 7.5% raises and projected cap progress, His 3rd year salary would already be around the 30% in 2020 most likely and the 5% raise he could command then based on his previous contract would basically nullify the possibility readjust his 3rd contract around 30% of the cap as it wouldn't be worth it.
 
gotta be honest, these new salaries are making it hard to enjoy the game. both because it hurts me to be doing something that is so much more important to the world and making so much less, and that the new tv deal is gonna make it hard to watch games cause cable and satellite rates are going to go up.
 
As a french L'équipe reader, this is not exactly what the agent says. He knows Utah can extend him later. They just "check if they're on the same page".

He says he knows Utah can chose to wait and make it later.



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cctrackstar said:
gotta be honest, these new salaries are making it hard to enjoy the game. both because it hurts me to be doing something that is so much more important to the world and making so much less, and that the new tv deal is gonna make it hard to watch games cause cable and satellite rates are going to go up.
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Obviously the economy doesn't work the way you want it to.
 
In a turkish nba forum, I saw a post like "Gobert demands 5 year 143 million $ contract." Are these news true? Any tweets to refer?


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I don't know. I really don't. I just saw a facebook post on an nba community.


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cctrackstar said:
gotta be honest, these new salaries are making it hard to enjoy the game. both because it hurts me to be doing something that is so much more important to the world and making so much less, and that the new tv deal is gonna make it hard to watch games cause cable and satellite rates are going to go up.
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2 things I don't get.
1. Why will there be all this tv money from this new deal?
2. How can cable/satellite companies raise rates?

The reason I don't get it? More and more people are going away from cable and satellite tv. There is roku, huli, netflix, slingbox, etc, etc. Plus I have free apps on my phone that let me watch pretty much anything I want.

Seems like tv money for these leagues should be going down, as should the cost of cable and satellite tv.
 
Jazz4ever said:
If Beal's max was 5/130 million how could Gobert get 5/143?
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Because Rudy's contract will be based on next year's salary cap other than Beal's tract.

fishonjazz said:
2 things I don't get.
1. Why will there be all this tv money from this new deal?
2. How can cable/satellite companies raise rates?

The reason I don't get it? More and more people are going away from cable and satellite tv. There is roku, huli, netflix, slingbox, etc, etc. Plus I have free apps on my phone that let me watch pretty much anything I want.

Seems like tv money for these leagues should be going down, as should the cost of cable and satellite tv.
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They've underpaid for a decade and made a ton of money off of it. The ratings were better than what they paid for. Other TV genres declining and sports programming staying stable means that the relative value goes up together with an growing audience.
So the commercials are getting more expensive as well and got in the past. They just reinvest the cash they made off the last deal, bet on future growth and stability and extract the rest from commercial rates.
 
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